My single speed build
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My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Fri May 07, 2010 1:53 pm
I will post some piccies of the work in progress when I work out how to do it but I have a question first.
I sent the frame and forks off to get sandblasted and powdercoated and they have come back looking really nice. HOWEVER, I didnt remove the bearing cups from the top and bottom of the head tube. I'm not too concerned by the lack of chrome on the cups now they have been powdercoated on the outside, but in hindsight should I have removed the cups?
Thanks
DahonDude
Edit:
Heres the bike straight off the nature strip.
And a close up of the frame with decal name
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Re: My single speed build
Postby j-ho » Fri May 07, 2010 2:12 pm
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Re: My single speed build
Postby brendan03 » Fri May 07, 2010 4:17 pm
He's going single speed, not fixed, so a rear brake is advisable.j-ho wrote:I'd advise against the coaster brake. A front brake is all you need, and less things to go wrong mechanically.
Yeah, you should have removed the headset cups - you'll need to remove any powdercoat from the inside of the cups so the bearings have a smooth hard surface to roll on. You might be able to use a sharp knife cut around the cups & head tube join and remove them without too much damage. Or just ride as is.
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Re: My single speed build
Postby boyracer » Fri May 07, 2010 4:45 pm
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Re: My single speed build
Postby brauluver » Fri May 07, 2010 4:53 pm
Whats wrong with a coaster brake ?j-ho wrote:I'd advise against the coaster brake. A front brake is all you need, and less things to go wrong mechanically.
Makes perfect sense to have a CB rear and a front brake as well.
Good luck with your build dhd, can't wait for some pics.
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Re: My single speed build
Postby boyracer » Fri May 07, 2010 5:10 pm
get back in the shed Dave and finish that visp!!!brauluver wrote:Whats wrong with a coaster brake ?j-ho wrote:I'd advise against the coaster brake. A front brake is all you need, and less things to go wrong mechanically.
Makes perfect sense to have a CB rear and a front brake as well.
Good luck with your build dhd, can't wait for some pics.
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Re: My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Fri May 07, 2010 5:34 pm
No was waiting to get the frame back to I can take it with me wheel shopping and make sure the wheel fits in the frame without any issues.boyracer wrote:Have you got your wheels yet jez? If the bikes a beater just load it up with grease and the bearings will take care cleaning the cups out....assuming they didnt blast the insides of the cups! check 'em every month or so and clean out/ regrease until back to shiny metal.
Only one cup has some crud in it so looks like I will need to do a bit of cleaning prior to reassembly.
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Re: My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Fri May 07, 2010 11:41 pm
I got the frame powdercoated at Delway Brass here in Adelaide (http://www.delwaybrass.com.au/). They charged $77 for sandblasting and powdercoating and appear to have done lots of bikes before. I have never had a bike powdercoated so dont know what is a great job versus an average one, but the p'coating looks pretty good to me. Good coverage all over the frame and they didnt get any in places where it shouldnt have been. The colour is something like British Racing Green.
In hindsight I am not overly excited by the colour, but its dark, which will at least hide road grime.
Cleaned up the bottom bracket, removed the crappy old pedals (one took a herculean effort to get off), removed the small chain ring and chain guard, soaked everything in petrol for a few days to get rid of grease/dirt/road grime and counteract a bit of rust. All came up looking OK.
Reassembled the forks/headset, bottom bracket and cranks, and cleaned up and reattached the handlebars tonight. Two small incidents with a wrench and one of the bottom bracket cups saw the frame lose two bits of paint (expletive). There's a bit of rust on the headset lock rings but otherwise it all looks pretty good so far.
Need to visit a bike shop in Adelaide (two have already been recommended) to try and find a cheap wheelset with a single speed, coaster braked rear wheel, a new seat post, seat post bolt and seat, drag out some old pedals from my pedal collection and get a few bits to sort out the front brake (cable and cable housing) and I am good to go. Bike number six to add to the collection!
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Re: My single speed build
Postby victor76 » Sat May 08, 2010 12:24 am
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Re: My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Sat May 08, 2010 7:12 am
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Re: My single speed build
Postby j-ho » Sat May 08, 2010 2:50 pm
I probably shouldn't have written "advised", my bad. I've had all kinds of single speed/fixed variations (no back brake, back brake, coaster brake no front brake etc.). I'd personally get a flip flop back wheel and run it ss with a front brake (this is purely from an aesthetics pov which may or may not concern you, and if you feel like it, it's a matter of flipping the wheel around to go fixed. If you use a front brake, then the back brake becomes useless anyway? (I know this is a highly disputed topic)brauluver wrote:Whats wrong with a coaster brake ?j-ho wrote:I'd advise against the coaster brake. A front brake is all you need, and less things to go wrong mechanically.
Makes perfect sense to have a CB rear and a front brake as well.
Good luck with your build dhd, can't wait for some pics.
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Re: My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Sat May 08, 2010 4:32 pm
Anyway thanks to boyracer I should have a new wheelset from International Cycles within the week.
I will try a 48 18 gear combo but might have to push it out to 48 20 (sorry I still cant get my head around gear inches)
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Re: My single speed build
Postby brauluver » Sat May 08, 2010 4:46 pm
The bigger the number the harder to get rolling, but greater top speed for less RPM of pedals, harder to climb hills.Dahondude wrote: I will try a 48 18 gear combo but might have to push it out to 48 20 (sorry I still cant get my head around gear inches)
the smaller the number the easier to get started but more RPM to achieve top speed, and easier to climb hills.
http://software.bareknucklebrigade.com/
Try playing with this to achieve a 70 to 75 GI ratio.
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Re: My single speed build
Postby hartleymartin » Sat May 08, 2010 6:25 pm
48/20 - About 65 gear inches (25kph at 80rpm)
Depending on the coaster hub you get, it will probably take a 3-spline sprocket. 18-t is standard as far as I am aware. 20-t sprockets are available from Shimano as a spare part (no, I don't know the part number). You might find that having the lower gear encourages you to improve your spinning.
http://raleightwenty.webs.com - the top web resource for the Raleigh Twenty
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Re: My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Sat May 08, 2010 8:16 pm
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Re: My single speed build
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Re: My single speed build
Postby hartleymartin » Wed May 12, 2010 11:54 pm
What you need to do now is to get yourself a gold paint pen and line those lugs! Here is a nice DIY primer on the subject.Dahondude wrote:
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Re: My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Thu May 13, 2010 11:01 am
Ohhh yeaaaaaah. Like that idea. Though the priority is wheels, seat post, saddle and a chain ATM!hartleymartin wrote:What you need to do now is to get yourself a gold paint pen and line those lugs! Here is a nice DIY primer on the subject.Dahondude wrote:
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Re: My single speed build
Postby flashrider » Thu May 13, 2010 11:34 pm
Check the member selling bits of his Casseroll on the Marketplace. Great wheelset for very reasonable dollars..Though the priority is wheels, seat post, saddle and a chain ATM!
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Re: My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Fri May 14, 2010 11:53 am
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Re: My single speed build
Postby YoungPodge » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:03 pm
I am guessing that the 48 front is dictated by what was on the bike as salvaged? Bikepath cruising with kids is not likely to be fast - so lower gearing is probably more comfortable than higher gearing, and teaching yourself to spin is not really in the picture.... So a smaller chainring on the front would not go astray. I am assuming that the rear sprocket size is dictated by what is available with a coaster brake, which is likely to limit your choices a bit.
Also, the coaster brake on the rear with a caliper on the front makes sense in the intended use you are describing. Coaster brake hubs tend to last forever and not stuff up. So "complexity" is over rated here!
Lets see the piccies of the finished bike!
Good fun project. I nearly did one a year or two ago, from a similar 80's steel frame. Got lazy, spent actual $$ and bought a new single speed to commute on....
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Re: My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:42 pm
Yes the 48 front chainring is what was on there when I found the bike. The small chain ring is way too small. And I dont want to buy a new crankset cos the old one has come up nice and shiny and hasn't cost me anything.
Don't let that stop you! Ive got two road bikes (1991 and 2001 vintage), a commuter MTb that I converted to SS for taking the kids to school/kindy, a fold up Dahon 16", a single speed/fixed Schwinn Madison that I bought off the shelf and am now building this single speed coaster. Nothing better than walking into the shed every morning and thinking "now which bike do I ride today?"YoungPodge wrote:Good fun project. I nearly did one a year or two ago, from a similar 80's steel frame. Got lazy, spent actual $$ and bought a new single speed to commute on....
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Re: My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:42 pm
Just need to get some tyres, a chain, seatpost and saddle and I will post some more pics
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Re: My single speed build
Postby Dahondude » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:54 pm
And still trying to find a paint pen to highlight all the lugwork
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