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pins and needles
Postby hh445f » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:02 pm
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Re: pins and needles
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:16 pm
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Re: pins and needles
Postby flammer » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:22 pm
Move around more. Stand to pedal about 20% of the time.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby Parrott » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:57 am
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Re: pins and needles
Postby wombatK » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:17 pm
+1. You need to get more of your weight onto the back of the bike. To check you've not got too much weight on your hands, put your bike in a trainer (with front wheel as level with back as normally), and see if you can pedal hard with your hands about 1 cm above the handlebar (i.e. without falling forward onto the bars).Parrott wrote:You can also try moving the saddle back on the rails a bit.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby twizzle » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:50 pm
- Too much weight on the hands. Fix as per WombatK.
- Rough roads. Gel padding, different gloves.
- Don't ride with straight arms.
- Don't grip the bars/shifters so hard. You should be riding with relaxed hands.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby hh445f » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:36 pm
But I will say that before the stem was rotated I was feeling a little sore in the lower back. But after the stem was rotated that seemed alot better. Maybe I will try moving the saddle back a little and try again tommorow.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby sogood » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:02 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby hh445f » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:50 pm
Thankyou all for the help so far. Today I moved the saddle back 10mm and wow what a differance. The numness was alot less. I might try another 5mm tomorrow. This may well solve my problem. That and getting used to the position on a roadie. Cheers allParrott wrote:You can also try moving the saddle back on the rails a bit.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby wombatK » Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:10 pm
Seems like you're getting close to fixing it. Also check that your saddle isn't "nose down" - that'll tend to get you sliding forward towards the handlebars.hh445f wrote:Thankyou all for the help so far. Today I moved the saddle back 10mm and wow what a differance. The numness was alot less. I might try another 5mm tomorrow. This may well solve my problem. That and getting used to the position on a roadie. Cheers allParrott wrote:You can also try moving the saddle back on the rails a bit.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby twizzle » Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:30 pm
Have you done the 'hands off the bar' test yet (you can do this out on the road, you don't need a trainer)? If not, why not?hh445f wrote:Thankyou all for the help so far. Today I moved the saddle back 10mm and wow what a differance. The numness was alot less. I might try another 5mm tomorrow. This may well solve my problem. That and getting used to the position on a roadie. Cheers allParrott wrote:You can also try moving the saddle back on the rails a bit.
And if you moving the saddle back, is the stem still the correct length or do you need a shorter stem?
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Re: pins and needles
Postby sogood » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:14 pm
Sounds like the whole fitting sequence has been reversed.hh445f wrote:Thankyou all for the help so far. Today I moved the saddle back 10mm and wow what a differance. The numness was alot less. I might try another 5mm tomorrow. This may well solve my problem. That and getting used to the position on a roadie.
For proper fit, one should adjust the saddle position independent of one's bar position. Once set, then the bar should be appropriately matched to it. Moving the saddle because there's too much weight at the hand grip is reversing the process.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby hh445f » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:16 pm
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Re: pins and needles
Postby hh445f » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:19 pm
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Re: pins and needles
Postby sogood » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:57 pm
I don't think that's right. Given your specific issue, you should get someone knowledgeable to have a look at your positioning on the bike. Check that your saddle is in the correct position before making adjustments to the bar position. A poorly positioned saddle may put you into more bother than just pins and needles.hh445f wrote:Sogood, my stem has been turned over. But like you say maybe I should turn it back to it's original position to see how it feels with the saddle moved back.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby Parrott » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:21 am
Edit: read that again today for some reason and it didn't work had longer and shorter stem round the wrong way.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby hh445f » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:32 pm
Parrott wrote:I set my bicycles up without any real fitting advice. Just go out and ride with an allen key and adjust the fore and aft seat position and height until you are comfortable. If you then feel stretched out get a longer stem if you feel cramped get a shorter one. That's all I did, it just takes a while and evolves anyway as your fitness, strength and flexibilty improves. You may need to muck about with cleat position also if you end up getting sore knees. If you just want to be more comfortable then muck around til you are. If you still can't resolve it, I reckon you will, then go and seek out a bike fitter.
Thanks Parrot. Basically that is what I did today. I think I have nearly got it right. Today I moved the saddle back 5mm and it felt better again. When I got home I droped the height 5mm, so next time I will try this posi. Cheers guys. Gotta love those allen keys on the multi tool
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Re: pins and needles
Postby hartleymartin » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:20 pm
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Re: pins and needles
Postby hh445f » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:28 pm
Hi Hartleymartin, Is this something that happened to you or someone you know. No one has mentioned bar width yet on this thread.hartleymartin wrote:Another possibility is that your bars are either too narrow or too wide.
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Re: pins and needles
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Re: pins and needles
Postby casual_cyclist » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:50 pm
Agreed. My hand pain was so bad I nearly quit cycling . I moved my seat back and my hand pain/numbness/pins and needles disappeared completely. It was lucky too because that was weeks before a 300km ride. Good news is on the 300km ride I had zero pain etc.Mulger bill wrote:Setup isn't right, you've got too much weight on your hands.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby scotto » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:07 am
raise the bar maybe ( flip stem), sort out your riding position in the long term
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Re: pins and needles
Postby Baalzamon » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:01 pm
Has anyone heard of fluid in the palm causing numbness? I can flex my hand back, put pressure on my palm and I get a lump appearing on my wrist which puts pressure on my carpal tunnel and
Only found this out on friday with a complimentary assessment from PIHC. They did a little bit of work(flexed and massaged my hand) and on a 40km ride I had no numbness appearing in my left hand which normally occurs around 10km and my right hand started to get a little bit of it about 32km into a 40km ride which was much later than usual.
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Re: pins and needles
Postby dv » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:18 am
Just something to add into the fray.....Blood sugar and cholesterol.....! I never knew these could be an issue if you are pretty fit......(no ...really.....!)
A few years back I was suffering from severe pins and needles in my hands - usually on the bike, but sometimes when I slept on them and had experts tell me I had carpal tunnel syndrome and needed pressure relief surgery. Around then I had some blood tests for a general check up and my sugar and cholesterol No.s weren't great - even though I was certainly not overweight or unfit. A radical change in diet and in a couple of months all the pins and needles went. Hell of a lot better idea than surgery - which would not have fixed the problem anyway!!! And I did not have to alter my bike set up either - which is good as I'm happy with it!
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Re: pins and needles
Postby Kururunfa » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:00 am
Only thing is to take hand of handle bar for some rest
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