Tdu 2011 !!!!

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby bongo » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:16 pm

Hope bike sa get it back, the first year I rode was to Angaston and organisation was pretty good.Enough to get me to sign up early the following year.

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby Sumichino » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:56 am

The full route has now been posted on the website
http://www.tourdownunder.com.au

Stage 1 Mawson Lakes to Angaston
Stage 2 Tailem Bend to Mannum
Stage 3 Unley to Stirling
Stage 4 Norwood to Strathalbyn
Stage 5 McLaren Vale to Willunga
Stage 6 City Loop

The Tailem Bend to Mannum stage looks interesting. It's not flat but it looks like it will be completely dominated by the sprinters' teams. I was hoping there would be more hills so some of the GC guys can have a chance of winning.

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby williamsf1 » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:44 pm

rode checker hill today.... and my god is it a prick of a hill.... garmin says its up to 19%.....

the decent is pretty wild too! and gets the heart going rather fast!!!! max 235bpm and not a spike!!!!

the rest of the stage has 10 significant hills but nothing on checker, so I am guessing that most riders will only do the 91km and not the full monty!

the final run into Strath will be epic for the leadout boys!!! wow what a run....

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby alex » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:56 am

williamsf1 wrote:rode checker hill today.... and my god is it a prick of a hill.... garmin says its up to 19%.....

the decent is pretty wild too! and gets the heart going rather fast!!!! max 235bpm and not a spike!!!!

the rest of the stage has 10 significant hills but nothing on checker, so I am guessing that most riders will only do the 91km and not the full monty!

the final run into Strath will be epic for the leadout boys!!! wow what a run....
riding these so called flat stages gives you a new appreciation regarding 'sprinters' on the pro tour... they can still climb perfectly well!
if i get killed while out on my bike i dont want a 'memorial ride' by random punters i have never met.

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby bionic wombat » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:54 am

http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2010/01/ ... #more-8590

check out the photos of Checker Hill !!
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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby MichaelB » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:22 pm

Sheesh, :shock: that makes it look really badder than I thought it could be ..... :shock:

the 11-28 cassette is on order and a 6700 Rd will be on by the time Jan 2011 rolls around, but really need to do some standing climbing training on some steep hills.

Hmmmm repeats of Morphett Rd sounds like the easiest :roll: way to do it. The practice that is ...

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby shiv » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:49 pm

i took the family out for a recon drive on sunday to see what Im getting myself into.

Had no idea where it was so just put checker hill into the phone map thing and followed the blue line. Driving up it I was saying to the missus how bad its supposed to be, but going up it looked not bad at all and started getting pretty confident in my abilities. Reached the top where there is a dip then another small climb and was sure I was in the wrong spot.

Crested the hill and lo and behold the road disappeared below the front wheels somewhere. Stupid maps had taken me the back way!! :cry:
So now my assessment is, this is gonna bloody hurt!!!!! It doesnt look all that much longer then Morphett Rd, but that doesnt mean its gonna be easy.

Tried taking some pics to send to my brother so he has an idea, but you just cant get a decent shot that does it any justice!

Anyway, since I live at the flat end of morphett road Im gonna be riding straight down to the other end at least twice a week from now till december. :(

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby rustychisel » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:17 pm

shiv wrote: Anyway, since I live at the flat end of morphett road Im gonna be riding straight down to the other end :(
I feel sure you'll get more benefit from riding STRAIGHT UP...


Ah, that's what you meant to say :wink:

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby limetang » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:22 pm

I had a ride up Education Rd at Happy Valley on saturday for a bit of TDU hill practice. Its a tough one! had to take a break half way up.... would love to hit it with a garmin and get some data on the gradients/total lengths etc.

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby shiv » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:20 pm

rustychisel wrote:
shiv wrote: Anyway, since I live at the flat end of morphett road Im gonna be riding straight down to the other end :(
I feel sure you'll get more benefit from riding STRAIGHT UP...


Ah, that's what you meant to say :wink:

Na I live at the north end, the hill is at the south, so I ride down the map. :D

So Ill go down the road, up the hill, down the hill then back up the road.

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby williamsf1 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:36 pm

anyone else looking for a good place to practice.... sheoak rd would do the trick!!!!

how many people will try to do the whole 135km? out of say 8000 expected???

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby MichaelB » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:25 am

williamsf1 wrote:anyone else looking for a good place to practice.... sheoak rd would do the trick!!!!
Is this the same Sheok Rd that intersects with Old Belair Rd at the top ?

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby shiv » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:24 am

Yep. Has a 20% section (according to the road sign) a few ks along coming from old belair rd

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby MichaelB » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:33 am

shiv wrote:Yep. Has a 20% section (according to the road sign) a few ks along coming from old belair rd
OK, may give it a look this weekend then. Up Belair and down Sheok :?

I mean, it's not like I have to prove to myself that I can't even climb like Kenny van Hummel ....

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby DanielS » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:15 am

Having ridden Checkers and Sheoak a few times each, I'd say Sheoak is very good practice for Checkers. Checkers is a little longer I think, but Sheoak is a little bit steeper -- that's my feeling, i could be wrong though.

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby MichaelB » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:39 am

Apart from the obvious slope that goes up, are there markers (road turnoffs, signs etc) that mark the start and finish of this section of enormous suffering ?

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Postby DanielS » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:45 pm

Not really... you will just be riding along this pleasant back road and suddenly it goes up! (I think it actually has two very steep sections, but the first is steeper).

If you're on the east side of town, check out Kensington Rd lookout too. Ride straight up Kensington Rd and keep going through the roundabout when it turns into a suburban street. That is very very steep.

You've also got Coachouse Dr / Woodland Way which is an alternative route up to Norton Summit -- also very steep.

I'm told Coach Rd at the top of the Parade is similar also but have never done it!

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby MichaelB » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:31 pm

DanielS wrote:
.... check out Kensington Rd lookout too. Ride straight up Kensington Rd and keep going through the roundabout when it turns into a suburban street. That is very very steep.
Done that. Almost died. Mind you, from the garmin data, the average gradient is similar to Old Belair and Corkscrew - ninish % average.

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby alex » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:12 pm

the more i think about this the more i am considering taking the day off work to just sit on the side of checkers hill road so i can watch the carnage
if i get killed while out on my bike i dont want a 'memorial ride' by random punters i have never met.

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby shiv » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:33 pm

alex wrote:the more i think about this the more i am considering taking the day off work to just sit on the side of checkers hill road so i can watch the carnage
The pro carnage or us silly bastards carnage? Id love for someone to film us all struggling up it, hint hint. :P

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby williamsf1 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:41 pm

sheoak is very close to town (maybe 10-15 mins from the city in a car....) and starts from the pony club to what was the end of the road surface at the top.... but now it goes through to stirling etc...

but its an easy to get to replica of checker that you could do 2 times and say that is the same as checker.... just for hill training!

I wouldn't ride up old belair or james road as you are liable to get splatted!!!! main belair road is ok though....

kalyara hill is also a good one too!!!! just after the windy point lookout turn RIGHT

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby Dahondude » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:08 am

Sheoak is a dog of a road...terrible surface, I dunno why anyone rides up it.

Another good one to try is Woolcock Rd out near Mylor. Cheery Gardens Rd > IronBank Rd then turn R into Morgan Rd (a very steep descent on a good surface, so you could turn around at the bottom and ride up it. I reckon Checkers cant be much steeper). Ignore the Left turn at the bottom, round a sweeping right bend, then turn left into Woolcock. I guarantee you will regret it :)
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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby MichaelB » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:45 am

williamsf1 wrote: kalyara hill is also a good one too!!!! just after the windy point lookout turn RIGHT
Didn't get out till late on Sunday (7:10pm), so Sheoak road was given a miss, but did Belair Rd (= best time), then rode down and tried Kalyara :shock: needed a quick break at the false flat, the Garmin said it was 19/20% for the second steep part :shock: . Then continued down Sheps Hill and tackled Morphett Rd.

Made it to the top without stopping :D and avoided the heart attack, but it was sure pumping !!!!

Back in time to have a shower, make dinner and settle down to the start of Stage 8 :P

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby alex » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:01 pm

shiv wrote:
alex wrote:the more i think about this the more i am considering taking the day off work to just sit on the side of checkers hill road so i can watch the carnage
The pro carnage or us silly bastards carnage? Id love for someone to film us all struggling up it, hint hint. :P
the pros will be in a bit of pain but there are only maybe 100 of them? and they can all ride up no worries. ill be there to watch the challenge tour riders/walkers which should be quite a spectacle!
if i get killed while out on my bike i dont want a 'memorial ride' by random punters i have never met.

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Re: Tdu 2011 !!!!

Postby bongo » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:10 pm

Rode up the gorge and on to checkers today, some suffering involved there for sure.When I got to the top of the climb I stopped and the first thing that I thought of was how the hell are several thousand people on bikes going to fit not only up this road but where to fit all the people who stop as I did today. The guys who want to go up and watch others suffer and see the chaos unfold will be hard pressed to hold there spots with all the punters stopped trying to catch their breath,there is simply not enough room. I hope the organisers have thought about this,it could become a very dangerous situation.On the day I dont intend on stopping,clearing that area at the top is going to be hard enough,remember fox creek last year. As someone else mentioned here the descent is also pretty full on,you gain speed so quickly.I think I will leave earlier than the official start, hopefully avoiding riders who have under prepared,there are always plenty.Many more trips to checkers before the event I think,as well as some hard rides around that,there is a lot of riding left after conquering this nasty little number.

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