Southern Railway - Bike Cages
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Southern Railway - Bike Cages
Postby Aushiker » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:50 pm
The BTWA has posted some photos of the new bike parking enclosures planned for the southern railway.
They are apparently fully screened with Secury Force mesh within 50 m of the station entry.
The photos are from the trial installation at Greenwood station.
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Postby cray- » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:49 am
In this case you'd still want to lock your bike up to a rack when you leave it for that period that the whole thing is accessible.
Then again my whole theory could be wrong..../me shrugs.
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Postby tallywhacker » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:44 pm
my feelings exactly. Its a bicycle smorgasboard.europa wrote:I'm confused. What is the point of those cages? One big holding area? If so, where's the security? What security?
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Postby Aushiker » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:19 pm
I haven't seen this one at Greenwood yet but will try and drop in next week, however, if it is setup along the lines we have at work (University) I wouldn't be so quick to write it off. If nothing else it provides far more lock-up opportunities than three or four of the boxes currently provided at some railway stations.
At work we have a cage. To gain access to the cage you have to pay a deposit and register to get the key. Each key is numbered and allocated to an individual. The cage is locked with a fairly heavy duty lock. Within the cage there is a number of D-Bars or U-Bars (not sure what they are called) which one can lock their bike to.
All up there is two levels of security here which in my view is much better than just a D-Bar outside.
Oh the cage is also located in our underground car park so there is weather protection as well.
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Postby beauyboy » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:51 am
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Postby mikesbytes » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:59 am
Why don't you use a long cable and thread it thru the gearbeauyboy wrote:My main issue with these cage is that unlike a bike locker, bike cages do not allow you to leave your cycling gear with your bike, you have to carry the stuff with you. Translink in brissy is looking into providing personal lockers inside of bicycle cages so people can leave stuff with there bike.
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Postby beauyboy » Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:13 am
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Postby beauyboy » Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:33 am
Luck
Dumb thieves
honest people
Sadly we can not rely on that always happening
It is a bizzar thing bikes being locked up. People will pull a D bolt throught the frame when they leave there bike somewhere but they will leave quick release seat posts and wheels all open to theft.
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Postby Aushiker » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:37 am
I would prefer bike locker's too but we need to be realistic I think. The amount of real estate required for a cage which locks up say 30 bikes compared to the amount of real estate required for 30 bike lockers is vastly different.beauyboy wrote:My main issue with these cage is that unlike a bike locker, bike cages do not allow you to leave your cycling gear with your bike, you have to carry the stuff with you. Translink in brissy is looking into providing personal lockers inside of bicycle cages so people can leave stuff with there bike.
I like the idea of the personal lockers inside cages. This might be something worth exploring further. I will try and take a look at Greenwood tomorrow and see what is being done.
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Postby Aushiker » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:46 pm
A quick update on this topic. I didn't have time on Tuesday to actually drop in to Glendalough station but did take a gander as I rode pass. I couldn't see any evidence of the new cages at this point so they may not be installed as yet. I will keep an eye on it and report any developments.
Related to this, the latest issue of Cycling in the West (Vol. 15 No. 2) has an article about the Public Transport Authority [PTA] approach to cycling.
It reports that "three levels of bike storage, modelled on European designs, will be available at each station [Southern Suburbs Railway] - U-rails, bicycle shelters (which are mass bike parking facilities) and bike lockers."
The article goes on to quote Jim Krynen, the Authority's Cycling Integration Manger who says "if more bike facilities are needed, we will install them. I encourage people to be proactive and contact me with their comments and ideas."
No contact details were provided however the PTA does have a website and its contact details can be found here.
I suggest if folks have something constructive to add to the discussion they include Jim Krynen in the discussion. We can't expect them to respond to our concerns if we just put them here in this forum.
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Postby Aushiker » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:06 pm
Dropped by the Glendalough train station yesterday to check out the cage. All it seems to be is a covered area, with wire mesh on three sides and fancy U-Bar/racks within.
The gate was open and it appears it can't be user locked/open anyway. Really provides no more protection other than the roof of a U-Bar.
Seems to be a bloody waste of money.
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Postby heavymetal » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:19 pm
I'll take my chances leaving the bike on the platform. With 90 kgs of Rottie chained to it.Aushiker wrote:Really provides no more protection other than the roof of a U-Bar.
Seems to be a bloody waste of money.
Also don't sit at the new central Perth Station for more than half an hour. Security get nosey and ask you what you are doing
I told them to go and my own their business. I was waiting for a train to Mandurah.
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