Anyone have one of these ??Aushiker wrote:Hi
One for the fans of the MagicShine front lights, DealExtreme now have a "matching" tail-light ... 3W 3-Mode LED Bike Tail Light Set for US$57.60.
Andrew
Tailights
-
- Posts: 1421
- Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:00 pm
- Location: W.A
Re: Tailights
Postby Marty Moose » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:21 am
- ajh003
- Posts: 352
- Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:16 am
- Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Re: Tailights
Postby ajh003 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:29 pm
All good so far - very happy
VERY BRIGHT - VERY VISIBLE
I actually have both this rear light and the 900 lumen magicshine running from a Y adapter on one battery into my rear Pannier bags etc
Working very well
I will say that the battery that came with the front light was a DUDD
I am still waiting for them to resolve this
Communication is at times difficult and limited
But it is all looking ok now
Hence....I run em both of the one good battery
Giant "Talon" MTB for weekend Trails and "FAMILY" stuff
SW 168.5 kgs CW 111 kgs woohoo !
- Caelum
- Posts: 864
- Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:25 pm
Re: Tailights
Postby Caelum » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:30 pm
Spork! wrote:Launceston, Tas.Caelum wrote:
Where are you based Spork?
My home town
Just moved back to WA in the last month
-
- Posts: 1421
- Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:00 pm
- Location: W.A
Re: Tailights
Postby Marty Moose » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:39 pm
Thanks AJH Might just be getting one then.ajh003 wrote:Yep sure do
All good so far - very happy
VERY BRIGHT - VERY VISIBLE
I actually have both this rear light and the 900 lumen magicshine running from a Y adapter on one battery into my rear Pannier bags etc
Working very well
I will say that the battery that came with the front light was a DUDD
I am still waiting for them to resolve this
Communication is at times difficult and limited
But it is all looking ok now
Hence....I run em both of the one good battery
MM
-
- Posts: 1669
- Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:55 pm
Re: Tailights
Postby Baldy » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:21 pm
I dont usually like to talk stuff up but for the price these are very good.
cheers
-
- Posts: 45
- Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:20 pm
Re: Tailights
Postby Doorknob » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:59 am
-
- Posts: 32
- Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:12 pm
Re: Tailights
Postby csd » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:19 pm
- ajh003
- Posts: 352
- Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:16 am
- Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Re: Tailights
Postby ajh003 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:29 pm
It must be that the front one draws so much more cos I barely used it to conserve the battery to make sure my rear shone out all the way
Very happy with the result again
Being 3 watt it is way more powerful than even the Radbot 1w and way more visible
As I commute so daily I'm very concerned about being rear ended, although the ever intentional close calls from the "Commodore" brigade never changes unfortunately
Giant "Talon" MTB for weekend Trails and "FAMILY" stuff
SW 168.5 kgs CW 111 kgs woohoo !
- wombatK
- Posts: 5612
- Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:08 pm
- Location: Yagoona, AU
Re: Tailights
Postby wombatK » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:52 pm
Fellow riders complain about the brightness of my 1 watt Tioga Big Eye tail-light being - so I'm wondering could a tail light be so bright as to distract rather than attract attention and become a negative.ajh003 wrote: Very happy with the result again
Being 3 watt it is way more powerful than even the Radbot 1w and way more visible
As I commute so daily I'm very concerned about being rear ended, although the ever intentional close calls from the "Commodore" brigade never changes unfortunately
If a driver looks away from you when passing because your tail light is too bright, and misjudges how close he is to you, you could get rear ended because of your light. I did a check driving behind my son riding with the Big Eye, and at least for me, it didn't become distracting like this.
Have you tried driving behind someone with your 3W light to see if this could be a problem ?
Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us -Jerry Garcia
- Aushiker
- Posts: 22401
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:55 pm
- Location: Walyalup land
- Contact:
- m@
- Posts: 5112
- Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:20 pm
- Location: Wurundjeri Country
- Contact:
Re: Tailights
Postby m@ » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:50 pm
I'd hazard a guess that you're much less likely to be hit from behind by a driver who has seen you than one who hasn't... A good defuser should solve any dazzling problems though.wombatK wrote:Fellow riders complain about the brightness of my 1 watt Tioga Big Eye tail-light being - so I'm wondering could a tail light be so bright as to distract rather than attract attention and become a negative.ajh003 wrote: Very happy with the result again
Being 3 watt it is way more powerful than even the Radbot 1w and way more visible
As I commute so daily I'm very concerned about being rear ended, although the ever intentional close calls from the "Commodore" brigade never changes unfortunately
If a driver looks away from you when passing because your tail light is too bright, and misjudges how close he is to you, you could get rear ended because of your light. I did a check driving behind my son riding with the Big Eye, and at least for me, it didn't become distracting like this.
Have you tried driving behind someone with your 3W light to see if this could be a problem ?
- The Womble
- Posts: 3395
- Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:46 pm
- Location: Brisbane QLD
- Contact:
Re: Tailights
Postby The Womble » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:57 pm
- The Womble
- Posts: 3395
- Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:46 pm
- Location: Brisbane QLD
- Contact:
-
- Posts: 3056
- Joined: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:54 pm
Re: Tailights
Postby zero » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:17 pm
A car brake light is 20w, and most car tail lights are at least 5w -> and there are at least 2 of each.wombatK wrote:Fellow riders complain about the brightness of my 1 watt Tioga Big Eye tail-light being - so I'm wondering could a tail light be so bright as to distract rather than attract attention and become a negative.ajh003 wrote: Very happy with the result again
Being 3 watt it is way more powerful than even the Radbot 1w and way more visible
As I commute so daily I'm very concerned about being rear ended, although the ever intentional close calls from the "Commodore" brigade never changes unfortunately
If a driver looks away from you when passing because your tail light is too bright, and misjudges how close he is to you, you could get rear ended because of your light. I did a check driving behind my son riding with the Big Eye, and at least for me, it didn't become distracting like this.
Have you tried driving behind someone with your 3W light to see if this could be a problem ?
A red 3w led (given leds are twice as good as traditional bulbs) might be slightly more powerful than 1 car tail light but still hopelessly outclassed by the brake light. Its not going to dazzle anyone into hitting a rider. My experience with the 8w headlight is the brighter the light, the more the car driver underestimates the distance (which is a good thing).
- wombatK
- Posts: 5612
- Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:08 pm
- Location: Yagoona, AU
Re: Tailights
Postby wombatK » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:03 pm
Unfortunately the watts you are talking about are the input power requirement of the bulb.zero wrote:
A car brake light is 20w, and most car tail lights are at least 5w -> and there are at least 2 of each.
A red 3w led (given leds are twice as good as traditional bulbs) might be slightly more powerful than 1 car tail light but still hopelessly outclassed by the brake light. Its not going to dazzle anyone into hitting a rider. My experience with the 8w headlight is the brighter the light, the more the car driver underestimates the distance (which is a good thing).
The efficiency with which electrical energy is converted into light is markedly different between an incandescent light bulb and a LED. So comparing watts which are input is not informative.
It would be more useful to compare the light output using something like the metric unit for reporting the perceived power of a light - which is the lumen. Unfortunately, few suppliers or retailers of lights (either LEDs or incandescents) seem to bother with publishing useful data like lumen output. The magicshine supplier gives absolutely no quantitative performance specs. So we can only make some rough comparisons.
The bicycle light is not a braking light. It should be rated approximately the same as the light intensity for the red clearance tail-light on a motor bike - which is typically a single 5W (input) incandescent.
LEDs produce 5 to 10 times more light per watt than an incandescent (depending on the type of LED). So a 3W LED could be equivalent to a tail light with a 25 to 50 W incandescent. That would make it much brighter than a typical car or motor cycle brake light, and very much brighter than a tail light.
What you need to consider is how much brighter than a car brake light could it be without bringing the risk that drivers will look away from you and not see you should you or they wander or have to suddenly deviate from the course they are expecting (e.g. to avoid a pothole).
This is something that the ADR regulation for motor vehicles probably need to be more specific about. Daytime running lights have strict lumen output limits - possibly in recognition that many will be manufactured using LED arrays and have a potential to dazzle in counter-productive ways. The same kind of consideration needs to be given to tail-lights given the cheap high-powered LEDs now appearing in the market.
Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us -Jerry Garcia
- ajh003
- Posts: 352
- Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:16 am
- Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Re: Tailights
Postby ajh003 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:55 pm
Hi WombatKwombatK wrote: Have you tried driving behind someone with your 3W light to see if this could be a problem ?
This sounds like a good idea
After using several Good QUality Rear lights and even trying out the Radbot 1w rear - there is not doubt that these magicshines are significantly brighter
I will report back after getting someone to ride past for me...
You can select to intermittent flash the centre LED then the outer ring of LED's (My preferred setting)
I would doubt that is anywhere near as bright as constant ALL ON
Anyway, I will check it out
But, practically for reliability and for longevity of charge - I am delighted so far
Giant "Talon" MTB for weekend Trails and "FAMILY" stuff
SW 168.5 kgs CW 111 kgs woohoo !
- Aushiker
- Posts: 22401
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:55 pm
- Location: Walyalup land
- Contact:
-
- Posts: 444
- Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:43 pm
Re: Tailights
Postby Arlberg » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:03 pm
http://www.ivanhoecycles.com.au//bike-l ... at_255.php
-
- Posts: 12225
- Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:40 pm
- Location: Brisbane
Re: Tailights
Postby jasonc » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:40 pm
my radbot 1000 does well then. considering I paid $34 delivered for itArlberg wrote:An interesting independant tailight brightness test here.
http://www.ivanhoecycles.com.au//bike-l ... at_255.php
-
- Posts: 2
- Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:28 pm
Re: Tailights
Postby Robert H » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:16 pm
Can anyone help me out? Cheers.
-
- Posts: 2
- Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:28 pm
Re: Tailights
Postby Robert H » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:53 pm
- CoffsGal
- Posts: 1000
- Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:35 pm
- Location: Mid North Coast NSW
Re: Tailights
Postby CoffsGal » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:15 pm
I don't have one of these lights, but on similar types there is a spot on one end to insert a coin (maybe $2 or 10c) and then twist the coin to lever the cover off.Robert H wrote:I just got a Tioga Dual Eye light but it came without packaging and I can not for the life of me work out how to open it.
Can anyone help me out? Cheers.
- Aushiker
- Posts: 22401
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:55 pm
- Location: Walyalup land
- Contact:
Re: Tailights
Postby Aushiker » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:45 pm
Andrew
Aushiker.com
- coffeeandwine
- Posts: 546
- Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:06 pm
- Location: Buninyong, Vic
Re: Tailights
Postby coffeeandwine » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:00 pm
Merida 903 from the LBS; Diesel engine
-
- Posts: 21
- Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:12 pm
Tailights
Postby gobsec » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:12 am
Like the other posters I find myself attracting comments from other road users about its brightness, and I know from their path of travel behind me that motorists are very aware of the light as they come up behind.
As one post said, it is best to point it slightly downwards so that it creates a pool of light on the road. There is still plenty of light shining backwards, and it is easier to stay friends with the others in your group ride.
As well as the light you get multiple brackets for almost any conceivable fitting situation.
As someone who enjoys riding at night, my enjoyment is enhanced by knowing just how visible I am.
Return to “General Cycling Discussion”
- General Australian Cycling Topics
- Info / announcements
- Buying a bike / parts
- General Cycling Discussion
- The Bike Shed
- Cycling Health
- Cycling Safety and Advocacy
- Women's Cycling
- Bike & Gear Reviews
- Cycling Trade
- Stolen Bikes
- Bicycle FAQs
- The Market Place
- Member to Member Bike and Gear Sales
- Want to Buy, Group Buy, Swap
- My Bikes or Gear Elsewhere
- Serious Biking
- Audax / Randonneuring
- Retro biking
- Commuting
- MTB
- Recumbents
- Fixed Gear/ Single Speed
- Track
- Electric Bicycles
- Cyclocross and Gravel Grinding
- Dragsters / Lowriders / Cruisers
- Children's Bikes
- Cargo Bikes and Utility Cycling
- Road Racing
- Road Biking
- Training
- Time Trial
- Triathlon
- International and National Tours and Events
- Cycle Touring
- Touring Australia
- Touring Overseas
- Touring Bikes and Equipment
- Australia
- Western Australia
- New South Wales
- Queensland
- South Australia
- Victoria
- ACT
- Tasmania
- Northern Territory
- Country & Regional
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Majestic-12 [Bot]
- All times are UTC+10:00
- Top
- Delete cookies
About the Australian Cycling Forums
The Australian Cycling Forums is a welcoming community where you can ask questions and talk about the type of bikes and cycling topics you like.
Bicycles Network Australia
Forum Information
Connect with BNA
This website uses affiliate links to retail platforms including ebay, amazon, proviz and ribble.