Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
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Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:11 pm
The bike has done 12,500km so far, and thought I might as well put on a new headset whilst I'm at it.
It seems from the googling and phone calls that it takes an FAS Orbit headset, but there are 9 different ones on Wiggle alone - and this aint counting the other brands such as Crane Creek, Chris King etc etc
Any hints as to which one ?
Orbit CE
Orbit MX
Orbit Z No. 9
Orbit XL II
Orbit Z Aheadset
Orbit UF
Orbit ZS3 Zero stack
Orbit Z Aheadset
It looks most like the last one, but I'd like some suggestions before I plunk out the cash
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby rustychisel » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:29 pm
My suggestions are,
1) pull the old one out and read what is inscribed upon it
2) email tech support at www.frfsport.com and ask them
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:09 pm
Done #2 and waiting for a response.rustychisel wrote:now now dear.
My suggestions are,
1) pull the old one out and read what is inscribed upon it
2) email tech support at http://www.frfsport.com and ask them
w.r.t. #1 - there is nothing wrong with it now, and I want the headset for the new fork when it goes in once I have all the bits. So I don't want to take the other one off the road.
Also, when I bought the one for the Cinelli, apart from the markings on the bearings, theer was no other markings or identifiers whatsoever
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby davidk » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:24 pm
Mine is using a Cane Creek IS2
http://www.canecreek.com/component-head ... oduct=IS-2
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:10 am
Cheers, I'll look that one up. Actually, the one you linked to is for 1" steerer's, not 1 1/8".davidk wrote:would it help if I quoted you the Cane Creek headset on my A18 2010 Krypton?
Mine is using a Cane Creek IS2
http://www.canecreek.com/component-head ... oduct=IS-2
The Cane Creek 1 1/8" one is the IS 3 ??
On Wiggle, the IS 3 is not in stock
I also spoke to Corsa yesterday prior to sending an email to FRF, and they were vague and not really helpful and pointed me towards FRF as well. A bit disappointing from a customer service point of view.
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby rustychisel » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:54 am
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:58 am
On Wiggle, the 1 1/8" IS2 is discontinued, so is it replaced by the IS3 ?biker jk wrote:The IS-2 comes in 1-inch and 1 1/8th inch versions. I have it on one of my bikes. Ribble has Cane Creek 1 1/8th inch integrated headsets in stock.
There are so many "standard" versions, it's a major PITA to work out which one
Will do Rusty. Got good feedback from Velocity when I queried about the rim for my purpose (Recommended A23, and would do non machined versions if required without issue)
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby biker jk » Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:30 am
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:11 am
They also have a link on their site to help you sort out which one you need Talk about 50,000,000 different combinations
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:36 am
The IS-2 used to be made in both sizes, the IS-3 is the current model and what I would recommend. If you want something of higher quality with custom colors available, go with the 110-IS.
Gary Maltby
Cane Creek Cycling Components
Nothing from FRF yet
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:14 pm
The IS 3 is A$52 from Wiggle, and the 110-IS is only A$184 from wiggleMichaelB wrote:Response from Cane Creek :
The IS-2 used to be made in both sizes, the IS-3 is the current model and what I would recommend. If you want something of higher quality with custom colors available, go with the 110-IS.
Gary Maltby
Cane Creek Cycling Components
Nothing from FRF yet
Nice colours, but not that nice !!!
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby baabaa » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:32 pm
Headset Warranty.
With the exception of the 110 series, Cane Creek warrants its headsets for a period of one year from the original date of purchase (headsets in the 110 family carry a warranty of 110 years).
Your grandkids will thank you....
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:14 pm
I think she'll need a different bike by then ......baabaa wrote:Need to read the fine print.
Headset Warranty.
With the exception of the 110 series, Cane Creek warrants its headsets for a period of one year from the original date of purchase (headsets in the 110 family carry a warranty of 110 years).
Your grandkids will thank you....
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:00 pm
Both these types have similar weight (68g for IS-3 and 67g for 110-IS), two stack heights for IS-3 (9.5 or 19.25mm) and one for 110-IS (27.3mm), MSRP of US$50 for IS-3 and US$115 for 110-IS. Apart from pretty colours, the choice is easy.
But then there is the AER-IS version Stack height is 6.2mm, weighs in at a portly 33g and has a MSRP of US$100.
With the link from FSA in cobblers thread, at least I can now look at the two brands and try and decipher which FSA is the same....
Bugger, as starbike.com doesn't have the Cane Creek headsets (has FSA) or BB7 brakes but has spokes at great prices, and Wiggle has the Cane Creek and BB7 stuff, but not spokes. AAARRRGGGHHHH, but I digress.
Still no contact from FRF re the tech query
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby baabaa » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:04 pm
http://www.bikeman.com/
If you are shipping a few items these blokes are good value.
Also an oracle for what works with what.
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:15 pm
Don't have Cane Creek Headsets, only bearings, Spokes are by Box of 100 only, and have the BB7 and will price match.baabaa wrote:AUD/USD about 8950 today so try
http://www.bikeman.com/
If you are shipping a few items these blokes are good value.
Also an oracle for what works with what.
Cheapest shipping on a box of spokes was US$43
Overall, not a winner this time around. Thanks anyway
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby baabaa » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:38 pm
Send them msg and tell them what you need and they should give you options on smaller numbers and post costs. Should be quick in reply.
No drama I just like these guys and they are keen to more in Aust.
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:42 pm
Doh, must have clicked on the wrong link when I found the headset sub categorybaabaa wrote:http://www.bikeman.com/Cane_Creek_Headsets.html
Will try and send them a message re the spokes, but ideally need to wait to get the rims , and remeasure the rear hub before I order them.
Thanks again.
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:59 am
Feedback from Cane Creek show that the AER is a "race spec" headset designed for low weifght and low stack height, but no pretence about durability.MichaelB wrote:
But then there is the AER-IS version Stack height is 6.2mm, weighs in at a portly 33g and has a MSRP of US$100.
IS-3 Short is the way to go.
Now just waiting on a response from Bikeman, and order time !!
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby cobbler » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:55 pm
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby MichaelB » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:20 pm
In the end, did a trial fit last night to guage some height differences with the new fork, and the Cane Creek IS3 fitted beautifully. Done job for me
No markings on the FSA jobbie that came out, so no way of really knowing which one it was.
Therefore, Cane Creek get my money
Another upside is that for all of the hassle, I learnt a bit more for future fun times, and thanks for the input guys, much appreciated
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Re: Which bloody FSA Orbit headset for Argon18 ????
Postby rustychisel » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:34 pm
You know, mulling over this thing, FRF seem more or less typical of the average importer/agent, which is to say, generally useless when it comes to dealing with the public. Thing is, they want to be wholesalers, but they also want to be representative agents for their licensed territory, and this brings responsibilities with it. I understand dealing with queries from the GP gets in the way of eliciting orders from bike shops etc but that's just tough.
Next time we have a fiery debate about cheaper online prices, the cost of LBS parts and the markup through importers it would be worth considering just what exactly they do for their coin, and how much their service is worth. I'll give a big thumbs up to Netti Atom for their good work, and I know there are many others who stand behind their products, answer queries, etc, but there's also a bunch who aren't worth a pinch of s**t.
I know there's a guy comes on here who reps wheelsets etc, and though he is sometimes annoying because of his attempts to push the product, on balance I'd rather he were on this forum representing himself than not.
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