Cavendish V Greipel

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Cavendish V Greipel

Postby ft_critical » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:05 am

It's on: Andre to Omega Pharma. Post your Predictions here. Will we have to wait until the TDF to see who is the man?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/greipel-signs-for-omega-pharma-lotto

Apparently, Cav is a speed sprinter, whilst Greipel is a power sprinter....

I only hope we see some fighting, on the course and in the press, at some of the 's*** small races' before next years TDF.

For mine Greipel is amazing, he can come over the top from a long way out, but Cav is still in a different league. I hope it lives up to my expectations... :D
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby MichaelB » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:34 am

It will be interesting indeed.

I thought the early speculatyion was that there were some other teammates from HTC going with him (Eisel & Grabsh), but they have since resigned with HTC.

Leaving Greipel out on his own .... What is the Omega sprint leadout like ??????
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby Chuck » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:04 am

MichaelB wrote:What is the Omega sprint leadout like ??????


As far as Jurgen is concerned there isn't one :P

When Robbie was there it certainly wasn't a train. At times there were one or two left to lead him out, often he'd just fend for himself, he seemed to like that.

To be fair that was a few years ago now. Will be interesting to see how it develops and what races they target.

Cavendish V Anyone in a sprint finish is a mismatch when the Columbia man has any sort of form.
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby The Womble » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:07 am

The only thing I know for sure is that Cav still likes boys, so Missy STILL doesnt have a shot
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby goneriding » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:18 pm

MichaelB wrote:What is the Omega sprint leadout like ??????


If it's anything like their ability to support a strong GC contender he'll probably just continue to use the HTC one.
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby aussieboy13 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:30 pm

The Womble wrote:The only thing I know for sure is that Cav still likes boys, so Missy STILL doesnt have a shot


Just dash her hopes and dreams.
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby Missy24 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:29 pm

aussieboy13 wrote:
The Womble wrote:The only thing I know for sure is that Cav still likes boys, so Missy STILL doesnt have a shot


Just dash her hopes and dreams.

My name shows up in the strangest places... I'm stalking Cav at the worlds, sure I'm meant to be there to cover the womens racing, but I'm sure I'll find time :wink:

Plus if I can turn wombles wife into a lesbian then I should be able to make Cav straight... right :?
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby Mr Squiggle » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:56 am

Any chance Cav would come for the TDU?? or will HTC just stick with Renshaw and Goss maybe...

Would be a mouth watering prospect to see Cav and Andre head to head for a few days in Adelaide 8)
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby ft_critical » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:14 pm

Mr Squiggle wrote:Any chance Cav would come for the TDU?? or will HTC just stick with Renshaw and Goss maybe...

Would be a mouth watering prospect to see Cav and Andre head to head for a few days in Adelaide 8)


I doubt it, but so insightful a post. Especially after only 7 posts on this forum. Repect.

Great to see that, especially compared to the people that were accidentally released from the Halfway Cafe and allowed to post in grown-up threads.
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby Fletcher » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:24 pm

It would be good to see these two go for it in Adelaide in January. It's unlikely though, as Cav doesn't usually bother with showtime small races. :)

Btw some of you guys are waaay precious.
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby brentono » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:50 pm

Fletcher wrote: It's unlikely though, as Cav doesn't usually bother with s*** small races. :)


Chav- One Sprint, One Race... :lol:
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby Mr Squiggle » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:18 pm

I read somewhere that Mark Renshaw said Cav has an extra 10kph on him when they are both going hammer-and-tong. Obviously Renshaw is no Greipel, but he is certainly no slouch either!!

The footage of Cav come over Hushovd and burning off Pettachi in Paris was mighty impressive. When he is on, I don't think anybody will beat him, but I would be interested to see Greipel get a few early ones over him and see what the response is...
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby brentono » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:52 am

Mr.S
Mark Renshaw should possibly spend more time and attention, on moving in the
direction of the finish, and less on "headbutts" and running other riders off line,
and he may be able to make up that 10Kph. :wink: :lol:
(and while we are at it Chav, might be a better rider if he stuck to a straight line while sprinting)
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby brentono » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:47 am

Date: 19/8/2010
92nd Coppa Bernocchi

2010 Coppa Bernocchi
CSF-Colnago sprinter Manuel Belletti beats Danilo Hondo and Mark Cavendish in Coppa Bernocchi.
Francesco Gavazzi takes the diamond as overall winner of the Trittico Lombardo.

24 year old Manuel Belleti has scored his second win of the season by winning the Coppa Bernocchi today.
The sprinter of the CSF-Colnago team, also winner of the Giro D'Italia stage to Cesenatico,
was the best in the sprint over Lampre's Danilo Hondo and the winner of five stages in the recent
Tour de France Mark Cavendish. Daniele Colli and Daniele Bennati finished fourth and fifth.

For Belletti it's likely his most beautiful win in his career beating lots of top sprinters.
Coppa Agostoni winner Francesco Gavazzi (Lampre) secured his overall win in the Trittico Lombardo
(the prize for the best results in the three one-day races).
Gavazzi got a diamond with a total worth of 10.000 Euros.

Result
1 Manuel BELLETTI ITA COG 25 4:43:35 80 80
2 Danilo HONDO GER LAM 36 +0 56 0*
3 Mark CAVENDISH GBR THR 25 +0 32 0* :roll:
4 Daniele COLLI ITA FLM 28 +0 24 24
5 Daniele BENNATI ITA LIQ 30 +0 20 0*
6 Tyler FARRAR USA GRM 26 +0 16 0*
7 Daniele RATTO ITA CMO 21 +0 12 12
8 Pier Paolo DE NEGRI ITA ISD 24 +0 8 8
9 Enrico ROSSI ITA FLM 28 +0 7 7
10 Francisco Jose PACHECO TORRES ESP XAC 28 +0 6 6
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby brentono » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:04 pm

Date: 19-08-2010
2º stage Eneco Tour.
Distance: 198,5 km
Road – Stage
Departure: St. Willebrord, The Netherlands
Arrival: Ardooie, Belgium

Andre Greipel (GER) demonstrated in Ardooie why Omega Pharma-Lotto has him.
He knocked off Robbie McEwen (AUS) and Edvald Boasson Hagen (NOR) in the sprint,
Svein Tuft remains leader.
The longest stage on this Eneco Tour has inspired everyone to do great things. :)
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby Mr Squiggle » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:29 pm

brentono wrote:Mr.S
Mark Renshaw should possibly spend more time and attention, on moving in the
direction of the finish, and less on "headbutts" and running other riders off line,
and he may be able to make up that 10Kph. :wink: :lol:
(and while we are at it Chav, might be a better rider if he stuck to a straight line while sprinting)
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Don't disagree at all mate - and if they both went straight line for the finish, Andre will have very little chance...
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby Mr Squiggle » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:41 pm

brentono wrote:Date: 19-08-2010
2º stage Eneco Tour.
Distance: 198,5 km
Road – Stage
Departure: St. Willebrord, The Netherlands
Arrival: Ardooie, Belgium

Andre Greipel (GER) demonstrated in Ardooie why Omega Pharma-Lotto has him.
He knocked off Robbie McEwen (AUS) and Edvald Boasson Hagen (NOR) in the sprint,
Svein Tuft remains leader.
The longest stage on this Eneco Tour has inspired everyone to do great things. :)
Cheers,
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But apart from this, Andre has not finished any higher than 12th in any other sprint at this tour.

(Also pretty sure there are three stages longer than 200km...)
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby brentono » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:16 pm

No worries. :wink:
You can peruse your way through this.
Under- UCI (all events) point standings for Sprinters, as it stands, today
Just put the top 13, but you can have the full list if you want. :)

Position: Name - Points:
1 Petacchi, Alessandro 901.99
2 Greipel, André 805.99
3 McEwen, Robbie 709.99
4 Cavendish, Mark 686.00
5 Hushovd, Thor 652.99
6 Davis, Allan 618.99
7 Förster, Robert 611.99
8 Bennati, Daniele 584.99
9 Napolitano, Danilo 546.99
10 Brown, Graeme 536.99
11 Boonen, Tom 531.99
12 Rojas Gil, José Joaquin 526.00
13 Farrar, Tyler 525.00

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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby ft_critical » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:24 pm

Position: Name - Points:
1 Petacchi, Alessandro 901.99
2 Greipel, André 805.99
...
4 Cavendish, Mark 686.00
...



How did André get all those points from s*** small races? Aren't s*** small races only half points then? TDF has to be like double points though right?
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby toolonglegs » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:36 pm

Greipel may have a nice amount of points...but TDU,Poland,Austria & Turkey will do that for you.Not that he has had the chance this year to do anything bigger apart from at the Giro (where he did OK but nothing amazing).
Omega Pharma Lotto is starting to get some pretty strong GC riders coming thru as well.
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby Mr Squiggle » Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:54 pm

I don't have the stats on hand, but I would expect that Greipel would have raced many more days than Cav this year (due to health, attitude and other issues which are probably irrelevant in this thread), and so would expect him to have more points.

I am not the greatest fan of either of the blokes, but at the same time I cannot wait to see them head to head, and see Cavs reactions should Andre get a few wins over him :) I just hope Im not disappointed...
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby toolonglegs » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:46 pm

They will be going head to head at the worlds...Cav in a team of 3 and Greipel in a team of 9.Should even things up a bit.If it wasn't for Greipel's points Germany would have a much smaller team.
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby ft_critical » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:14 pm

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I’m a paid professional. This is not a f****** hobby! I’m in cycling to succeed!

If I wanted to get s*** small wins, I'd race s*** small races.

My wins speak for themselves

When it comes down to a sprint, you can count on me :wink:

me on bad form is still better than him

there’s no chance whatsoever that he’s coming to a bike race that I’m in

My riding hasn’t been so bad that I didn’t deserve to start.
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby toolonglegs » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:18 pm

What are you saying..that they are not besties :shock: !.
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Re: Cavendish V Greipel

Postby ft_critical » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:25 pm

toolonglegs wrote:What are you saying..that they are not besties :shock: !.


No mods in pro cycling TLL, only on forums...
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