Commuter Cup Racing
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby goneriding » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:39 am
Last night on my way home a guy on a TT bike (non commuter) drafted and then passed me at which point I started drafting him. At a set of lights we both slow, he goes through and I stop-ish. At the change I took up the chase and managed to reattach myself to his wheel. We then hit the bottom of a small rise where I had a crack and was just drawing level when he turned off. So the question is was a win a loss or a draw?
This morning I passed a guy on a nice CF Trek who proceeded to chase me for a couple of km's before passing me and trying to drop me. I managed to stay on his wheel before returning the favour and then putting in a burst up a hill to drop him. It was a good battle as we were in the high 30's to low 40's for most of the effort. Good win.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby familyguy » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:07 pm
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby Chris249 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:19 pm
For a second I thought the guy on the TT bike may have been me, and I was going to dispute losing a Commuter Cup challenge. Luckily I realised I'd done a last-minute hop onto the roadie yesterday morning.goneriding wrote:After a few weeks of quiet I hit a couple of hard Cup challenges in the last 24 hours. One was a clear victory but the second I need an adjudication on.
Last night on my way home a guy on a TT bike (non commuter) drafted and then passed me at which point I started drafting him. At a set of lights we both slow, he goes through and I stop-ish. At the change I took up the chase and managed to reattach myself to his wheel. We then hit the bottom of a small rise where I had a crack and was just drawing level when he turned off. So the question is was a win a loss or a draw?
This morning I passed a guy on a nice CF Trek who proceeded to chase me for a couple of km's before passing me and trying to drop me. I managed to stay on his wheel before returning the favour and then putting in a burst up a hill to drop him. It was a good battle as we were in the high 30's to low 40's for most of the effort. Good win.
The TT bike is a double-edged sword for a commute - it's easy to get it going fast so it's tempting to use it after a training ride when you want to have an easy commute. Then as soon as you get on it you realise that if you don't blast everyone off you'll like a wannabe, so you've got to go hard anyway.
I wouldn't like to draft while on the aeros.... not nice if the guy ahead has to hit the anchors.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby jules21 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:26 pm
that's the beauty of commuting on an MTB. you can't loseChris249 wrote:The TT bike is a double-edged sword for a commute - it's easy to get it going fast so it's tempting to use it after a training ride when you want to have an easy commute. Then as soon as you get on it you realise that if you don't blast everyone off you'll like a wannabe, so you've got to go hard anyway.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby beauyboy » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:50 pm
Happened this morning again. Bloke on a roadie overtakes me on the last part through riverside just before the Botanic Gardens. Once in the Botanic Gardens he slows down and I speed up (wider path better line of sight) and I am on his tail .
What is it with Roadies having to overtake Hybrids
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby Livetoride » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:56 pm
Well now that's an open invitation isn't it...beauyboy wrote:
What is it with Roadies having to overtake Hybrids
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What I want to know is, why in hell would they slow down after passing you, isn't it rule number 3, that when you pass you just keep on going flat out....
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby goneriding » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:05 pm
Incorrectly phrased. What is it with commuters having to overtake all other commutersbeauyboy wrote:What is it with Roadies having to overtake Hybrids
Personally, I don't care what people are riding. At SOP we even have wheelchair athletes training. I chase them too
In my book 2 bikes = 1 race.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby CommuRider » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:08 pm
You have no mercy.goneriding wrote:
Personally, I don't care what people are riding. At SOP we even have wheelchair athletes training. I chase them too
Anyway, with all you commuter cup participants, have you ever chatted to the rabbits you're supposedly chasing? I mean, how do those rabbits know you were intending to chase them?
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby Livetoride » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:09 pm
goneriding wrote:Incorrectly phrased. What is it with commuters having to overtake all other commutersbeauyboy wrote:What is it with Roadies having to overtake Hybrids
Personally, I don't care what people are riding. At SOP we even have wheelchair athletes training. I chase them too
In my book 2 bikes = 1 race.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby beauyboy » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:30 pm
Donald
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby Livetoride » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:40 pm
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby goneriding » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:47 pm
@CommuRider - the correct passing procedure is smile and cheerily say morning as if your passing maneuver is of no effort. The reality is that I couldn't have a conversation with them because I need the oxygen
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby Comedian » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:46 pm
LOLgoneriding wrote:I'm like one of those dogs that'll chase a ball all day even after it has thrown up. I have no ability to restrain myself in this regard and never have
@CommuRider - the correct passing procedure is smile and cheerily say morning as if your passing maneuver is of no effort. The reality is that I couldn't have a conversation with them because I need the oxygen
That's right - the aim is to demoralise the rabbit. Sound nonplussed...relaxed, comment on how nice the weather is and then get the hell out of there before they realise that are about to asphyxiate.
Oh.. they know. You can see them darting in the headlights of a rider higher up the bike food chain. If there is any doubt a few moments of drafting can help announce your presence.CommuRider wrote:
Anyway, with all you commuter cup participants, have you ever chatted to the rabbits you're supposedly chasing? I mean, how do those rabbits know you were intending to chase them?
I was riding home today and I was moving pretty well on Gordon and this guy is sitting drafting me. I stood up and powered up the hill out of the parklands, then I'm sitting on just under 40 next to the railway and he cruises by and comments on the cattle smell from the rail yards Turns out it's a mate from work. He rides 60k a day commuting and then rides mountain bikes on the weekend. He's a legend.. If I go my hardest and he eases off I can keep up with him for a few k before he drops me
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby betterthanwalking » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:01 pm
Marion usually provides a couple of victories in the mornings. The numerous lights can make you look a clown as you get stuck and caught, then have to go hard again.
Tonight I killed myself to catch a guy on Marion after Oaklands Road. I sat on his wheel to recover and he looked to be going pretty good. Once I had my breath back I, cruised passed and offered my wheel, as I had sucked his for a while. A quick chat at the lights at Sturt to see where he was going, straight up Flagstaff Hill. He said he'd be slow up the hill but I wasn't sure, so I put the (toffee) hammer down. I didn't look back until half way up and he was right, he was steady up the hills. I couldn't see him.
As we hadn't finished the conversation, I waited and we finished the hill together.
Safe commute tomorrow people.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby ft_critical » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:23 pm
Man, I love just dropping his a$$ every morning. Never say hello. Hard.
Just said for fun as this is a pretty positive thread
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby hannos » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:14 am
Upped teh cadence a bit and pushed along at 45-50km/h and stayed parallel to him for about a kilometre. He moved into the left hand lane and I'm riding right beside him. He looked over so I gave a grin before he pulled ahead and took the exit to heathcote road.
Funny stuff - a motorbike being shadowed by a bicycle
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby Livetoride » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:32 am
Nice work, he must have thought he was seeing things....hannos wrote:Riding the M5 yesterday afternoon when I see a motorbike filtering through between the 2 lanes of traffic. I know he isn't a bicycle but I couldn't let him pull ahead of me! (I wa son the shoulder).
Upped teh cadence a bit and pushed along at 45-50km/h and stayed parallel to him for about a kilometre. He moved into the left hand lane and I'm riding right beside him. He looked over so I gave a grin before he pulled ahead and took the exit to heathcote road.
Funny stuff - a motorbike being shadowed by a bicycle
You should get bonus points for that one
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby jules21 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:07 am
i'll bet you hesitate as you go past, give him the Lance stare then accelerate againft_critical wrote:There is this old stager who commutes to the city every day RHS on the Pacific Hwy in Sydney. He must be about 65, full-on grey hair. He is on a steel frame, down-tube shifters Repco, first generation Styrofoam helmet, wool jersey and all his kit in a musette.
Man, I love just dropping his a$$ every morning. Never say hello. Hard.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby betterthanwalking » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:37 pm
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby ft_critical » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:07 pm
The 'rage' comes with the EPO programme. I will be on the gear soon so that old guy better doubly watch himself. You need every advantage in the commuter cup, a quart of extra blood, look out anyone on the bike pathjules21 wrote:i'll bet you hesitate as you go past, give him the Lance stare then accelerate againft_critical wrote:There is this old stager who commutes to the city every day RHS on the Pacific Hwy in Sydney. He must be about 65, full-on grey hair. He is on a steel frame, down-tube shifters Repco, first generation Styrofoam helmet, wool jersey and all his kit in a musette.
Man, I love just dropping his a$$ every morning. Never say hello. Hard.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby hannos » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:37 am
First thought was "No way, he must be ona motorised bike" as I didn't have the faintest idea of where he came from.
So in order to not get caught I upped my cadence somewhat, pushing along at about 40 -45km/h. There was no way I waas going to let this guy catch me!
Managed to stay about 40m in front for quite a few km until I pealed off at Belmore Road.
phew, one challenge staved off
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby westab » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:35 pm
Wow great speed - if it was motorised it must be double points - one point for the riders power and one point for the bikes motor (probably 200watts). I don't think I could do that speed even if I was drafting one of those petrol driven bikes.hannos wrote:Riding the M5 eastbound this morning when I look over my shoulder to check the exit ramp for traffic when I see this particularly bright headlight behind me.
First thought was "No way, he must be ona motorised bike" as I didn't have the faintest idea of where he came from.
So in order to not get caught I upped my cadence somewhat, pushing along at about 40 -45km/h. There was no way I waas going to let this guy catch me!
Managed to stay about 40m in front for quite a few km until I pealed off at Belmore Road.
phew, one challenge staved off
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
Postby hannos » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:54 pm
westab wrote:Wow great speed - if it was motorised it must be double points - one point for the riders power and one point for the bikes motor (probably 200watts). I don't think I could do that speed even if I was drafting one of those petrol driven bikes.hannos wrote:Riding the M5 eastbound this morning when I look over my shoulder to check the exit ramp for traffic when I see this particularly bright headlight behind me.
First thought was "No way, he must be ona motorised bike" as I didn't have the faintest idea of where he came from.
So in order to not get caught I upped my cadence somewhat, pushing along at about 40 -45km/h. There was no way I waas going to let this guy catch me!
Managed to stay about 40m in front for quite a few km until I pealed off at Belmore Road.
phew, one challenge staved off
It's mostly flat and the traffic helps a little bit by pushing the air forwards
I have no idea if he was motorised or not, I didn't let him get close enough for me to look. Damn good front light he ahd though.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing
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