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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby elStado » Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:18 pm

Looks familiar to the bike I am working on. I see what you mean about the front forks being replacements.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby ch!ppy » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:11 am

all this Ricardo love makes me miss the first bike i ever bought, when i was a kid I saved all my hard earn't brown one dollar notes until i had $176 of them and bought what i thought was a real, fair dinkum, racing bike, with an amazing array of 10 gears :lol: , cant remember the model and it was all white, not exactly what i would have chosen as a colour when i was a kid but that was all i could have in a large size to fit me. I'd ride that thing as fast as it would take me (and before that i thought my super elliott was fast, huh! :lol: ), got pulled over by the cops on more than one occasion, a few times when as kids we would race the cars down the narrow winding steep decent into the SA country town of Yankalilla, the cops said it was dangerous, we kept doing it, duh..another time in the city (adelaide) they pulled me over at a radar trap and told me to slow down, "the speed limit applies to you too kid" :lol:

As kids we used to talk about what brands of bikes were the best, in our micro world we all thought and bragged that Ricardo was the best you could get :mrgreen: well we all knew Porshe were the best bikes in Oz, they had a really cool emblem too, but that bloody german company that made the 4 wheel jalopies made them change their name to Ricardo!arrg! so that now made Ricardo the best bikes!!!


incidentally, there are a couple of Porshe (old Ricardo) bikes on the ol auction site at the moment, with the shield emblem and South Australian Piper (magpie bird) on the head-tube, not racers unfortunately, one ladies and one roadster type thing, its got a stick shift!
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby Ricardoman » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:18 pm

Hi All

Well Finally got around to getting to the old's place and rummage through my stuff, and well I got more than I bargain for, and hopefully a bit of a treat for you all down memory lane.

Not only did I have sales brochures from 1985 thru to 1988 I also had brochures for 1989 and 1990 -1991 plus I dug out my group set of early frame stickers.

Plus a dealer shop sticker, for now I have uploaded for your perusal the 1985-1986/1987-1988 brochure covers and specification pages.

I will further upload the later brochures once I have shrunk them down enough to fit on my scanner bed and let you know.

I would like to scan these in as an Ebook if possible, so if anyone has any tips on how do so would be happy to do it.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... 1289394608

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... 5-1986.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... 7-1988.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... 7-1988.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... ickers.jpg

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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby HappyHumber » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:55 am

Ricardoman wrote:....
Not only did I have sales brochures from 1985 thru to 1988 I also had brochures for 1989 and 1990 -1991 plus I dug out my group set of early frame stickers.
...

Sweet merciful crap!!! That is fantastic RicardoMan.

I think quite a number of us would dearly love to see the full sheet/brochure scans. I wouldn''t even worry about doing them as a single continuous PDF file; if you could save each page as individual JPG file or similar, one of us would gladly compile them in sequence into a PDF. It basically depends on the hardware resources (and time) you have at your disposal as well as what you can email or upload, data volume wise.

I myself now have 3 Ricardo frames of reasonable to better quality construction; two 'Tange 900' Vivas and a 'Tange 2' Nuovo.

Happy to help hold the torch for what I believe to be one of the last Australian made brand names.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby ch!ppy » Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:11 am

+1

Great stuff!!! fantastic to look through, i am only sad you dont have stuff from the early 70's, grass is always greener....


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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby Tonyj » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:16 pm

Hi Drubie,
Thanks for the info and putting the pics up on the big screen. Not much on the forums application as yet. My bike has 105 throughout apart from the crank. Ricardomans info is great but is mine a White Lightning? Chainstay stickie identical to Richardomans so can only guess that the other stickies are what was on the bike originally. Funny paintwork is growing on me but to reco whole bike will require it's demise as some little rusty bits in several spots.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby Ricardoman » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:34 pm

Hi Tonyj

Here is the link to the Frame stickers:

http://photobucket.com/White-Lightning
Let me know if you need any more pics.

Also after reviewing your new purchase, here is a link also to the Elite SX, Ricardo were obviously painting bikes in that style:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... SX1990.jpg

Do you have a serial number for this bike ?, I have been given a bit of an explanation how they are interrupted, where I purchased my bikes from the owner of the bike shop who has now retired and has been a close family friend for many years as qiven me a run down on the serial numbers. I'd be interested in comparing your serial number to mine.

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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby Ricardoman » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:39 pm

Hi All

Just posted up a counter flyer from 1988-1989 for perusal.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... r1988a.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... r1988b.jpg

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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby HappyHumber » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:08 am

Thanks again Ricardoman..

It seems the guy who posted them originally has gone to ground, but the two near twin "Pinnacle" models here (coupla pages back in this thread) are very interesting. Only mention I've seen of any of the Ricardos with Reynolds tubing. By the L9.... serials - would that suggest they're more the period of your later model "White Lightenings"?

Well chuffed with the scan you've done of that counter flyer from 1988 - that's basically my Nouvo on the front page ('cept mines a 63cm version)

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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby Ricardoman » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:58 am

HappyHumber wrote:Thanks again Ricardoman..

It seems the guy who posted them originally has gone to ground, but the two near twin "Pinnacle" models here (coupla pages back in this thread) are very interesting. Only mention I've seen of any of the Ricardos with Reynolds tubing. By the L9.... serials - would that suggest they're more the period of your later model "White Lightenings"?

Well chuffed with the scan you've done of that counter flyer from 1988 - that's basically my Nouvo on the front page ('cept mines a 63cm version)

Please, keep the memorabililia coming.


Hi HappyHumber

Glad you liked the Nouvo flyer that was it's last year of production 1988, I raced with a guy that had a Nouvo in 1986.

I'll have a go at the serial number sequence and open it up for discussion, and base this of what I have interpreted and explained to me.

My serial number for the White Lightning is L 90 B 0878

[L] Leisure Cycles (company name)

[90] or [9] Year of manufacture

[B] ? this is either model type i.e "White Lightning" or frame type i.e Tange 2 frame.

[0878] ? production serial number, number made of a particular model i.e (White Lighting was introduced to production in 1989 as Ricardo's top of range road bike)
So this production number may represent that count or total ongoing frame production for year 1990.

As for the Pinnacle numbering it was offered in 1990 and replaced the white ligtning as there new range leader delegating the white lighting into the next model down. It's production number L9P0077 and L9P0080 were probably early production numbers for the model.

There are obvious minor inconsistances in the production numbering, mine being L 90 and the Pinnacle L9, my Elite from 1986 is just stamped L 0391.

I can still remember when I ordered my White Lightning and having to wait some time for it to be made, I think about a month or so at the time.

On my next trip home I will grab my original receipts and actually see when I bought all my bikes. I will also check my production numbers of my Viva's off the paper work.

I also had a thought that part of the serial number may have been the frame size as 87mm is also the height of my fork tube, (Probably a coincidence), however I noticed in the brochure they appear to measure by the seat tube.

My final thought is there may have been some method in there serial numbers as they may have attempted to incorporate some practicality in them i.e frame type, model, production number, production year.

Anyway stay tuned for more brochure picture uploads...

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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby HappyHumber » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:19 pm

Just recently recommissioned my 63cm Viva (#L7K0569) , generously passed along to me by Zeus here in the forums as a Fixed Gear general runabout & commuter. Loving it.

I found it a little odd their top of the line Nouvo was only specced with the 105 Groupset. My bike is fairly original with its 105, but otherwise pretty flogged out. I have similar period Shimano 600 components, and I plan to gradually build it back up as a 9sp friction shifter. Paint is by and large OK, with a few rust-blurred chips here and there but It should clean up well enough as is.

Possibly one for the Shed sub-forum, but I wonder how some NOS Shimano Biopace rings would go with a 9speed cassette...
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Customized Ricardo Society...

Postby Quinns Rocks Roadie » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:58 pm

This much used Ricardo stopped in at the LBS at the same time as me.
Note the custom head angle and fork rake. :lol:
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Re: Customized Ricardo Society...

Postby HappyHumber » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:44 pm

Quinns Rocks Roadie wrote:Note the custom head angle and fork rake.

Is it actually jiggered, or is it merely the skewiff mudguard mountings? they might be for 700c wheels, when this is a 27" wheeled beastie....
But I tell you what - the seat post set up is definitely an eyebrow raiser!
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Ritardo Society...

Postby Quinns Rocks Roadie » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:46 am

Is it actually jiggered, or is it merely the skewiff mudguard mountings? they might be for 700c wheels, when this is a 27" wheeled beastie....
But I tell you what - the seat post set up is definitely an eyebrow raiser!

Yes the frame is most definitely bent - paint is flaked off top and down tubes and the forks are bent back from a collision no doubt.
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The bloke riding it had no clue about bikes...

"I bet the handling's a bit twitchy with the forks like that ?"
"Ummm, dunno."
"It'd be pretty hard to ride no hands too eh ?."
"Ummm, I've never ridden it no hands"

Confirms my theories about Ritardo riders. :lol:
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby HappyHumber » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:05 am

Confirms my theories about Ritardo riders. :lol:

Always wonder about people who lurk about in topics they've only got negative things to say about.
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Not All Ricardo's Are Good...

Postby Quinns Rocks Roadie » Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:32 am

The lower end Ricardo's like the one above are nothing special - K-Mart bike in their day.

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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby Thoglette » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:46 pm

HappyHumber wrote:I found it a little odd their top of the line Nouvo was only specced with the 105 Groupset.

My nouvos were supplied with 600. YMMV

HappyHumber wrote:Possibly one for the Shed sub-forum, but I wonder how some NOS Shimano Biopace rings would go with a 9speed cassette...

Fine. 10sp chain is starting to risk getting chain betwixt rings but nine seems to be fine. Again, YMMV
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby Ricardoman » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:58 pm

Hi All

More brochure Covers and data sheets to look at from 1989 and 1990.
Will start the big scan work shortly on the entire brochures time permitting.

Well enjoy the sneak peek.

Caution when opening contains 80's styling..

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... re1989.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... ec1989.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... re1990.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx22 ... ec1990.jpg

You will note the 1990 range was quite extensive in comparison to the previous years, mainly due to the introduction of imported bikes to the lower range.
All others frames were made in Australia by Ricardo. It's nice to see they were open in regards to identifying their imported models.

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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby PeteV » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:15 am

My first 'real' bike was a Ricardo MX, black on black, loved it to death. It got pimped with black Skyway Tuffs, Shimano DX pedals and GT bar pads. Ah the memories!
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby peter.prest » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:52 am

I have an 1984 Ricardo Elite that I paid approx. $700 (?) for with my hard earned from uni summer vacation work. My parents were distraught at the thought of spending that much money - but it was my sole form of transport.

I want to make some room in the garage and want to 'give' it away to a good home, but to someone who appreciates the history of it. The frame and gears etc are in pretty good nick as it has never been left outside...... if anyone is interested and live in the Adelaide area happy to hear from them.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby rustychisel » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:17 pm

peter.prest wrote:I have an 1984 Ricardo Elite that I paid approx. $700 (?) for with my hard earned from uni summer vacation work. My parents were distraught at the thought of spending that much money - but it was my sole form of transport.

I want to make some room in the garage and want to 'give' it away to a good home, but to someone who appreciates the history of it. The frame and gears etc are in pretty good nick as it has never been left outside...... if anyone is interested and live in the Adelaide area happy to hear from them.


Hi Peter, if the offer is still there I'll take it. Owned a Ricardo Elite myself until I broke it and quite like the marque. I'll PM you
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby rustychisel » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:31 am

and here it is. Thanks to the kindness of Peter, this red one will go faster...

Ricardo Elite, Tange 900 CrMo tubeset (incl fork legs)
23inch frame, so 58 x 58cm centre-to-centre
Serial # LGX 2690

All original fitout with possible exception of saddle, nearly all SR (Sakae Ringo) componentry except brakes and levers are DiaCompe and derailleurs/shifters are Shimano. Original 27inch wheels with 6 speed screw on cluster. Kept under cover all its life, usual chips and scratches in paint, only real damage is a minor dent in centre of top tube and middle braze on cable guide has been knocked off.

If anyone want to know more about the build/spec let me know.

Oh, and the 27in wheels will be for sale for a pittance, I'll be putting some 700c on it. SR hubs, 36 x 3 cross 14g spokes to Weinmann 27 x 1 1/4 rims. Quite tidy wheels, strong and true.

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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby Ricardoman » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:49 pm

What an excellent example, very nice Elite.

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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby HappyHumber » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:02 pm

Any more juicy scans for us Ricardoman?? :D :D

I'd love some of those 1988 era decals to show up.... My Nouvo paint is borderline passable at the moment. I love the yellow fade.. but my examples had it's fair share of chips & scratches.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Society

Postby BurtO » Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:00 pm

Got this from the dump the other day $15, just needed two new tyres and a couple of brake cables and a jolly good scrub. Man I'm loving this bike , you forget how relaxing riding can be and how going slow never felt so damn cool! Its got a Shimano 3s hub that I inadvertently disassembled whilst greasing the axle and after 2 days of scanning the net for answers I fluked it and am happy to say it works a treat. Big question is it's a Ricardo... what?? Nothing on the frame I can make out, and any ideas of the year. Look forward to hearing back.
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