Single speed vs multi speed

The place for fixies and other rides without gears

Single speed vs multi speed

Postby peter » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:02 pm

Any particular reason you want to ride a single speed over multi speed? Is it just the cool factor or is there a real benefit?
User avatar
peter
 
Posts: 958
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:39 pm
Location: sydney

by BNA » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:18 pm

BNA
 

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby ktyse » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:18 pm

It is more of a accomplishment to triumph by your legs muscle than by the artifice of a derailer.

The simplicity.
:mrgreen:
User avatar
ktyse
 
Posts: 15
Joined: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:31 pm

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby Uncle Grumpy » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:28 pm

I have 2 single speed MTBs. I set them up because I liked having a low maintenance, simple bike for use in crap weather. They have been getting a lot of use lately.

I have a road single speed (not fixed) because I like my MTB single speeds so much. Though I don't ride the road SS in the rain - go figure.

Cut all the crap about connectedness and that waffle, it's just fun to keep up with my mates on geared bikes and think "hey wow, this isn't really an impediment". The downside is nailing a climb in that one gear (2x1 ratio on the MTB) and then finding myself wussing out in a 1:1 or less on the geared bike.

Grumps
You are very tedious, and grumpy. Stay at home and give advice from your armchair.
- Stonedpirate, June 2010
Uncle Grumpy
 
Posts: 1000
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:13 pm

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby Oxford » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:40 pm

simple.

low maintenance.

cheap to run.

clean look.

to nail something you thought could not be done on an SS

to see the look on other riders faces when you nail something they thought could not be done on an SS.
Life is not about waiting for the rain to pass.....it's about learning to dance (or ride) in the rain.
- anonymous
Oxford
 
Posts: 4506
Joined: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:49 pm
Location: Brisbane

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby brauluver » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:41 pm

Riding fixed brakeless on a $hitter conversion (AT) 63 gear inches because it's heaaaaps of fun.
Learning to skid is awesome.
Also commute on a geared roadie as well as have a weekend roadie.
It's more about the fun angle and the challenge of only one gear and no slacking off for me.

My return to cycling a few years back was on single speed (71 Gi) and it helped me to attack hills rather than crawl up them.Something that has made me a better climber on geared,and turned me into a spinner.
brauluver
 
Posts: 3646
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:23 pm
Location: Adelaide N/E

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby rustychisel » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:19 am

You silly sausage, it's got very little to do with the bicycle and mostly to do with the fact that you're a good fit rider.

Skinny too, but
rustychisel
 
Posts: 3328
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:39 pm

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby peter » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:25 am

ktyse wrote:It is more of a accomplishment to triumph by your legs muscle than by the artifice of a derailer.


Ok, derailleurs are not as lame as electric motors. :)
User avatar
peter
 
Posts: 958
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:39 pm
Location: sydney

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby rustychisel » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:35 am

ktyse wrote:It is more of a accomplishment to triumph by your legs muscle than by the artifice of a derailer.


You are Henri Desgrange and I claim my 25 francs
rustychisel
 
Posts: 3328
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:39 pm

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby backofthebunch » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:56 pm

less to go wrong!

looks clean

i think its good for fitness too
backofthebunch
 
Posts: 227
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:10 pm

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby PeteV » Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:35 pm

I ride single speed to help with fitness, keep my cadence between 80 and 110, forces me to use my legs more and keep the cardio up. My commmute is generally flat but the slight inclines really get the legs and heart pumping. My gearing is 44/18, probably too spinny for some but perfect for me.
Merida Ride Lite 93 2012
Mojo Urban fixed
1984 Christoff R.I.P
User avatar
PeteV
 
Posts: 166
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:01 am
Location: Northern 'burbs, Adelaide

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby sogood » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:00 pm

Single speed includes those riding on fixed as well as freewheel. Fixie riders are quite particular on this distinction.
Last edited by sogood on Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:06 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Bianchi, Ridley, Montague, GT, Garmin and All things Apple :)
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
User avatar
sogood
 
Posts: 16796
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:31 am
Location: Sydney AU

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby ruscook » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:55 pm

I'm not a great climber (quite shite actually).. but I like the single speed because it makes me work harder for the same distance... I'm running a 48/17 (or about 76gear inches). I can cruise at 32-35 on the flats and hit 50 on the short but assisted downhills... I do about 10bpm higher heart rate on the ss than the road bike for the close to the same average time on the same route - so I guess it's making me work harder and hopefully improve.

I also like less maintenance, less to go wrong, don't mind it getting dirty etc...

Russ
Image
GT Avalanche 1.0 | TCR Alliance 0 | Giant Bowery | BMW K1300R
Two wheels good, Four wheels bad
ruscook
 
Posts: 2338
Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:59 pm
Location: Tregear, NSW

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby Mulger bill » Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:38 pm

Rule 1=Have fun.
Rule 2=Ride what you like.
...whatever the road rules, self-preservation is the absolute priority for a cyclist when mixing it with motorised traffic.
London Boy 29/12/2011
User avatar
Mulger bill
Super Mod
Super Mod
 
Posts: 25265
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:41 pm
Location: Sunbury Vic

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby brauluver » Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:55 pm

rustychisel wrote:You silly sausage, it's got very little to do with the bicycle and mostly to do with the fact that you're a good fit rider.

Skinny too, but

:oops:
I know....the wife calls me the stick man when I'm in me lycra.
brauluver
 
Posts: 3646
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:23 pm
Location: Adelaide N/E

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby rustychisel » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:04 pm

If I went back and searched through the forum, d'you suppose I'd find a post from Braulover saying "erk, you'll never catch me wearing that lycra stuff"?
rustychisel
 
Posts: 3328
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:39 pm

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby ruscook » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:25 pm

Mulger bill wrote:Rule 1=Have fun.
Rule 2=Ride what you like.

Rule 3= See rule 1 :wink:
Nicely put Shaun.
Image
GT Avalanche 1.0 | TCR Alliance 0 | Giant Bowery | BMW K1300R
Two wheels good, Four wheels bad
ruscook
 
Posts: 2338
Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:59 pm
Location: Tregear, NSW

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby drubie » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:16 pm

ruscook wrote:
Mulger bill wrote:Rule 1=Have fun.
Rule 2=Ride what you like.

Rule 3= See rule 1 :wink:
Nicely put Shaun.

Rule 0=Ride.
So we get the leaders we deserve and we elect, we get the companies and the products that we ask for, right? And we have to ask for different things. – Paul Gilding
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
User avatar
drubie
 
Posts: 4609
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:12 am
Location: New England

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby brauluver » Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:20 pm

rustychisel wrote:If I went back and searched through the forum, d'you suppose I'd find a post from Braulover saying "erk, you'll never catch me wearing that lycra stuff"?


True....But coming out has been a revelation for me :wink:
brauluver
 
Posts: 3646
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:23 pm
Location: Adelaide N/E

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby .isaac. » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:58 pm

You ride fixed cos' it's an excuse to have another bike.
.isaac.
 
Posts: 579
Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:07 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby PeteV » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:05 pm

brauluver wrote:
rustychisel wrote:If I went back and searched through the forum, d'you suppose I'd find a post from Braulover saying "erk, you'll never catch me wearing that lycra stuff"?


True....But coming out has been a revelation for me :wink:


I swore I would NEVER wear lycra, but padded undershorts are looking soooo tempting!
Merida Ride Lite 93 2012
Mojo Urban fixed
1984 Christoff R.I.P
User avatar
PeteV
 
Posts: 166
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:01 am
Location: Northern 'burbs, Adelaide

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby rustychisel » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:05 am

Never say never; embrace the new you. There's a reason lycra has been developed and adopted as the gold standard for cycling wear. The advances in clothing and footware over the last 30 years have been as phenomenal as bike technology. Only the dull or the ignorant will mock you.
rustychisel
 
Posts: 3328
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:39 pm

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby MartyPans » Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:53 am

rustychisel wrote:Never say never; embrace the new you. There's a reason lycra has been developed and adopted as the gold standard for cycling wear. The advances in clothing and footware over the last 30 years have been as phenomenal as bike technology. Only the dull or the ignorant will mock you.


The new you is the OLD you. :wink:
MartyPans
 
Posts: 17
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:14 pm

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby aaron » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:12 pm

Purely maintenance!!!!
aaron
 
Posts: 520
Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:44 am

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby adaml » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:56 pm

How do they compare in the speed stakes (single vs. geared)? I'll be looking to replace my commuter in a few months and while the reduced maintenence and hopefully cheaper price of a single speed are tempting, along the idea that it might improve my riding, the fact is that I'm a speed merchant and like to get everywhere fast. Indeed my main frustration with my current slick MTB is that it is a bit on the slow and heavy side.

I'd be willing to lose a few km/h on average, but not much. My commutes are fairly flat (inner Melbourne) so my gear ratio would reflect this.
adaml
 
Posts: 158
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:28 pm
Location: Melbourne, AU

Re: Single speed vs multi speed

Postby Oxford » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:08 pm

adaml wrote:How do they compare in the speed stakes (single vs. geared)? I'll be looking to replace my commuter in a few months and while the reduced maintenence and hopefully cheaper price of a single speed are tempting, along the idea that it might improve my riding, the fact is that I'm a speed merchant and like to get everywhere fast. Indeed my main frustration with my current slick MTB is that it is a bit on the slow and heavy side.

I'd be willing to lose a few km/h on average, but not much. My commutes are fairly flat (inner Melbourne) so my gear ratio would reflect this.
I actually found when I tried this out on the same bike just swapping the geared wheel out (Alfine hub) for the SS wheel so other than the drop in weight, everything was equal (changed tyres as well), the SS was quicker. Reasoning was that I was faster up the hills since I attacked the hills instead of spinning up them on the gears. However on the fixie (different bike but similar geo) at the same gearing as the SS I am slower since I cannot coast the down hills even though I still attack the hills pretty much.
Life is not about waiting for the rain to pass.....it's about learning to dance (or ride) in the rain.
- anonymous
Oxford
 
Posts: 4506
Joined: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:49 pm
Location: Brisbane

Next

Return to Fixed Gear/ Single Speed

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users



Support BNA
Click for online shops
Torpedo 7 Torpedo7 AU
Ground Effect Ground Effect NZ
Chain Reaction Cycles CRC UK
Wiggle Wiggle UK
Cycling Express Cycling Express
Ebay Ebay AU
ProBikeKit ProBikeKit UK
Evans Cycles Evans Cycles UK
JensonUSA Jenson USA
JensonUSA Competitive Cyclist