Not another helmet debate

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Not another helmet debate

Postby snark » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:46 am

I've managed to avoid the helmet debates here, but thought this story in The Age was an interesting read.

Just for the record, I agree with the story. I'll be wearing a lid regardless.

[mods- I think this is the right part of the forum, and couldn't see it mentioned anywhere else]

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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby goodlookingcyclist » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:57 am

snark wrote:I've managed to avoid the helmet debates here, but thought this story in The Age was an interesting read.

Just for the record, I agree with the story. I'll be wearing a lid regardless.

[mods- I think this is the right part of the forum, and couldn't see it mentioned anywhere else]

Cheers,
Simon.


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If you ride a bike long enough, you will fall off

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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby Oxford » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:15 am

I'm an advocate of wearing helmets, but I will also admit that I am now an advocate of repealing the helmet laws. I would still wear one under the same circumstances as I do now (almost without exception, always) and insist on my children wearing one until they are adults and can make their own decisions about the matter.
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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby goodlookingcyclist » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:38 am

Oxford wrote:I'm an advocate of wearing helmets, but I will also admit that I am now an advocate of repealing the helmet laws.


Good to hear, because wearing helmets for personal safety and forcing people to wear them are two different things.
But often when the MHL is mentioned people assume that is because wearing a helmet is a good thing.
That may* be, but forcing people to wear one is not a good thing.



* like it or not, the safety of these helmets is debatable, there is no clear proof it is safer, and no clear proof it isn't.
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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby sogood » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:55 am

I note that this thread has already started to gravitate towards a generic helmet law toss up from the 3rd post. You guys are hopeless for the lack of fresh angles on the subject! Lack of original thinking will get you nowhere... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby goodlookingcyclist » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:58 am

sogood wrote:I note that this thread has already started to gravitate towards a generic helmet law toss up from the 3rd post. You guys are hopeless for the lack of fresh angles on the subject! Lack of original thinking will get you nowhere... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


yep, better lock this thread before it get out of hand. :wink:
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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby Aushiker » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:49 pm

Hi

Saw the article (it is syndicated across the Fairfax press) earlier this morning and I agree with the sentiments expressed in the article. I guess I simply value my brain and my life to bother to argue about it .... dead or in rehab makes it all too late.

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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby Chanboy » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:39 pm

I agree with the article also. I wore a helmet when cycling in France. There were people who didn't wear helmets - but in most cases (out side of Paris) most people we rode with wore helmets.
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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby TheSkyMovesSideways » Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:09 pm

For anyone who hasn't realised, it's not immediately clear from the Fairfax websites, but the piece is by the author of Cycling Tips Blog.
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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:05 pm

Oh Yay. :roll:

You've all heard my opinion on this before, as a rider and as a forum mod. Not wasting keystrokes when nothing's changed on either side.

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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby human909 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:18 pm

sogood wrote:I note that this thread has already started to gravitate towards a generic helmet law toss up from the 3rd post. You guys are hopeless for the lack of fresh angles on the subject! Lack of original thinking will get you nowhere... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


In that case I vote get rid of MHL and introduce mandatory air bags on all bikes! :P
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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby Comedian » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:22 pm

My new Defy Advanced is only 18.7 kg with carbon bottle cages and airbag fitted. :mrgreen:
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Not another helmet debate

Postby il padrone » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:49 pm

Airbags in action :wink:

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