From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
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From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby TrackPete » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:38 pm
I have a friend that thinks he could go from being a D grade rider to a A grade rider within one year.
We suggested he would have to Win an B,C,D grade race (Crit or Road) and at least finish in pack or even place in an A Grade race.
Going along with it I was going to write a bi-monthly article for a cycling mag so all can follow. I know the editor well.
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a ) do people believe with the right training that someone could actually do this?
b ) would you be interested in follow the progress of someone doing this?
c ) is the criteria good or should have have to win an A grade race?
History on him. He hasn't trained for a few years. He used to do triathlons and was handy. Last weekend he did a D grade crit and got dropped.
Thoughts.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Apple » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:50 pm
Good luck to your mate.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Redbull » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:51 pm
Be an A-grader, rock up to a club that doesn't know you for the first race, smoke D grade by 3 laps.
Next week B grade, smoke B grade by 1 1/2 laps.
Next week A grade.
If you are a genuine D grade then you will not make it in a year (Particularly if you have not crit raced before and got dropped first race). Season is too short for the progress. Do the summer crits and winter road races, keep training then start off the first series of new races in B-C grade, that will keep it in the same calendar year.
Currently he would actually be too dangerous in the faster grades.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby philip » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:14 pm
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby othy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:25 pm
Different races also have different grading. Are you talking Open A grade or Club A grade? Even between club races the standard of A grade varies dramatically.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby TrackPete » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:52 pm
But I think he could get to a C grade win at Footscray or St Kilda pretty fast. No way at CCCC.
It's getting a win in B that will be the tough bit.
I also doubt he could do it. He thinks he can.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Apple » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:53 pm
Post a picture of him, and I will tell you if he can do it.TrackPete wrote:He is currently genuine D grade.
But I think he could get to a C grade win at Footscray or St Kilda pretty fast. No way at CCCC.
It's getting a win in B that will be the tough bit.
I also doubt he could do it. He thinks he can.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Chuck » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:05 pm
Apple wrote: Post a picture of him, and I will tell you if he can do it.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Apple » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:08 pm
Yes he can do it, I will send you my address so that I can train him upChuck wrote:Apple wrote: Post a picture of him, and I will tell you if he can do it.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby trailgumby » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:10 pm
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby drubie » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:19 pm
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Apple » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:23 pm
I will draft.drubie wrote:No way - one look and he will get dropped because NOBODY will want to draft that.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby drubie » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:36 pm
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Drunkmonkey » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:46 pm
Troy Bayliss pretty much managed to achieve what your friend thinks he can do.TrackPete wrote:Hi all new here.
I have a friend that thinks he could go from being a D grade rider to a A grade rider within one year.
We suggested he would have to Win an B,C,D grade race (Crit or Road) and at least finish in pack or even place in an A Grade race.
Going along with it I was going to write a bi-monthly article for a cycling mag so all can follow. I know the editor well.
However
a ) do people believe with the right training that someone could actually do this?
b ) would you be interested in follow the progress of someone doing this?
c ) is the criteria good or should have have to win an A grade race?
History on him. He hasn't trained for a few years. He used to do triathlons and was handy. Last weekend he did a D grade crit and got dropped.
Thoughts.
He had the dedication, time and money to achieve this though.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Zabriskie19 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:56 am
but I supose I'm only young (AT) 16 so I've got that on my side.
If though he is a genuine middle aged D grader I highly doubt that he could achieve this goal i think he should be more realistic and maybe target to be competive In B grade by this time next year. that going on last race getting droped in D grade which averages only averages 35/36kmh ish while B grade useually does low 40's I just can't see him doing it especially at strong clubs like you said he would be racing at St kilda and Footscray.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Apple » Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:34 am
You win,drubie wrote:You say that now Apple, but you'll get a whiff of "real men only wash on Thursdays" or spot a few "roadie grapes" and it'll end in tears.
Got a mental picture,
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby drubie » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:06 am
Yeah, I'm sorry about that, but that photo above is a stark reminder why second hand saddles are a bad ideaApple wrote:You win,drubie wrote:You say that now Apple, but you'll get a whiff of "real men only wash on Thursdays" or spot a few "roadie grapes" and it'll end in tears.
Got a mental picture,
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby toppity » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:10 pm
So I reckon that it could be done with a non-vet' club, but it would mean that there would be little else other than training occupying your thoughts.
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From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Comedian » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:05 pm
But he might have a hairy chest and back?Apple wrote:You win,drubie wrote:You say that now Apple, but you'll get a whiff of "real men only wash on Thursdays" or spot a few "roadie grapes" and it'll end in tears.
Got a mental picture,
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Ross » Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:47 pm
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby CommuRider » Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:06 pm
C'mon MAMILS, got to put this teenager in his place!Zabriskie19 wrote:I did this in eight months and went from E to A grade .
but I supose I'm only young (AT) 16 so I've got that on my side.
If though he is a genuine middle aged D grader I highly doubt that he could achieve this goal i think he should be more realistic
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Mean Machine » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:55 pm
Troy was training more or less seriously since he was a teen. In the last few years he has been training quite a bit with top pro's in Monaco where he lives (on and off) and still tests for Ducati. And lastly, he didn't start in D grade, most likely in Masters A and as such, tried his legs at A grade club/open races when he felt he was ready without "making" it into A Grade. I don't think he won an A Grade open race yet. Masters State RR, yes and in the process he dropped a guy who probably thought he had it in the bag. Troy is a class act and I'm sure he will win an A Grade race sooner or later. You can't compare him to some delusional clown who thinks he can just sail through the grades as if he's the next Merckx or something.Drunkmonkey wrote:Troy Bayliss pretty much managed to achieve what your friend thinks he can do.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Chuck » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:20 pm
Mean Machine wrote:You can't compare him to some delusional clown who thinks he can just sail through the grades as if he's the next Merckx or something.Drunkmonkey wrote:Troy Bayliss pretty much managed to achieve what your friend thinks he can do.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Drunkmonkey » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:34 pm
Troy has improved incredibly since dedicating a huge amount of time to training - that was my point.Mean Machine wrote:Troy was training more or less seriously since he was a teen. In the last few years he has been training quite a bit with top pro's in Monaco where he lives (on and off) and still tests for Ducati. And lastly, he didn't start in D grade, most likely in Masters A and as such, tried his legs at A grade club/open races when he felt he was ready without "making" it into A Grade. I don't think he won an A Grade open race yet. Masters State RR, yes and in the process he dropped a guy who probably thought he had it in the bag. Troy is a class act and I'm sure he will win an A Grade race sooner or later. You can't compare him to some delusional clown who thinks he can just sail through the grades as if he's the next Merckx or something.Drunkmonkey wrote:Troy Bayliss pretty much managed to achieve what your friend thinks he can do.
And off the top of my head Troy won A grade at Pimpama quite some time ago, and A grade at one of the Gold Coast Cycle series races.
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Re: From D grade to A Grade in 1 year?
Postby Zabriskie19 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:05 pm
while being a teenager all you have is.. school? which at the moment we are all enjoying a eight week holiday
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