martinjs wrote:I know I live in the sticks, but I did live in Melbourne for longer than I have lived here and rode about 4 years of that time and my riding habits and the way I treat traffic hasn't changed.
Ok I go a bit slower now
but that's more to do with what I want out of cycling.
I just really believe that we can't go around winging about motorist breaking the law when we do the same. 2 wrongs still don't make a right in my humble opinion.
Martin
Oh, I agree - which is why I take the approach I do (walk across once it's clear). Canberra is probably a bit different to Melbourne in that despite (or perhaps because of) the large number of casual/commuter cyclists and excellent bike facilities, drivers are generally hostile toward cyclists - far more so than anywhere else I've ridden. So I guess while I
generally don't succumb to the temptation to ride across for a car that has already stopped, I understand why others do when they feel under pressure from the waiting driver/s. In an ideal world I think the law would allow riding across after stopping.
Cyclists who fly across without looking either way OTOH are setting themselves up for a well-earned Darwin award - really dangerous as drivers may only be looking for slow-moving pedestrians already at the crossing.
x8pg2qr wrote:How do you know they get aggro? You ask them? Or different groups get aggro in different situations while others don't—but that's just life.
Oh, I can be surprisingly perceptive sometimes
But facial expressions including
, exagerated "WT?" gestures and occasionally yelling, revving and beeping can be giveaways...
At the end of the day it's their problem not mine if they are annoyed by others doing the right thing, but one of my no doubt many faults is wanting to please everybody
x8pg2qr wrote:And that's not a catch-22. Catch-22 is if you are inexperienced and have to apply for a job requiring experience which you can't get without the job. Or whatshisface needs to be mad to want to fly, but seeking psychiatric help is a sign of a sane person. You are possibly describing a no-win situation.
Fair call, that.