How old is this 5 Star
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How old is this 5 Star
Postby Recycler » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:30 am
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How old is this 5 Star
Postby silverlight » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:48 am
Do you have a picture you can upload for us to see?
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Postby 5 Star Rolf » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:36 am
...this could be a 1969 Sydney build number 127. I say 69 based on the first letter of the serial corresponding with last letter of year of manufacture, assuming the cranks are that -0r 59, but will need a pic to more accurately verify... do you know of any history of the frame?
Ride safe, cheers, 5*R .
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Postby Kid_Carbine » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:16 pm
Now that's AUSTRALIAN to the core.
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Postby GaryF » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:46 pm
I'll second that Mmmmmm, Nervex professional lugs do suggest a typical hand built 5 Star. Shame about the missing forks. I would guess that the forks were originally a 2 plate fork crown with round track forks. They probably had a much closer tyre clearance than the forks in it now (although they look like nice road forks).
I am also interested in the seat stay caps. They are typically long but they look like they have a groove running along the length of the caps. I find this unusual.
My guess would be that the frame was made in the late 50's / early 60's. I don't know when Malvern Star stopped making 5 Stars but I would estimate that your frame would be a later version.
Your paint scheme looks nice.
As well as 5*R, the Canberra Bicycle Museum might be able to help with the serial number.
May I ask what your plans are for such a nice example of Aust. frame building and cycling history?
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Postby Kid_Carbine » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:13 pm
"In 1956 there was a more radical change to the lugs introducing pressed & welded feature lugs which were fancy cut & scalloped in the style of the then fashionable Nervex lugs manufactured by DuBois from St Etienne in France. A 1957 Malvern Star brochure refers to the fact that Malvern Star sourced at least some of its lugs from St Etienne & photos of custom frames of the early 60's indicate that Nervex Pro lugs were commonly used at that time.. It is known that Rupert Bates in Melbourne also made many 5 Star lugs"
Hopefully this will remove a little of the fog of uncertainty from around this one.
Yes, it's sad about the forks, but when a bike is crashed, it's the forks that take the brunt of it first, so non original forks are a part of life for older bicycles these days. None the less, it's possible that a proper Nervex crown can be found & a new fork built. This is what happened with me quite recently. I bought a Nervex lugged track frame in Sydney for the crankset & stem, but the foreign forks that came with it didn't even fit the frame.
I donated the frame to a friend who just happened to have a correct new Nervex pro fork crown on the bench. Out came some new fork blades & a new steer tube & before you could say "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch" he had a new & correct fork built for it, so this stuff is still around if one looks & asks.
Link to 'that place'
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Postby Recycler » Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:03 am
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Re: Star
Postby Kid_Carbine » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:31 am
Well you're doing much better than me. At least I can say that I have been to Woopie [Woolgoolga] as I had friends that lived a short distance from there on the main highway, directly opposite the model aircraft airstrip. [which probably hasn't been there for 25 years for all I know]Recycler wrote: PS. I have been to that place in Wales UK.
Very nice 5 Star you have there, very nice indeed.
My stepfather rode with the Penrith Cycle club in the 1930's & I suspect that we are a similar age. Where did your father do his riding & with which club?
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Postby stevendavid75 » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:47 pm
Just looking a the fork, wondering if it could be bent at all? looks to me like the blade are pushed slightly towards the down tube? Might just be the camera angle.
Either way, bloody nice looking bike.
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Postby stevendavid75 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:21 am
I wouldnt mind having a go at spraying a frame one day, how did you prep the frame, just sand or did you get it sand blasted?
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Postby stevendavid75 » Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:11 pm
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