1949 Dutch 'Cyrus' Track bike on E-bay in S.A.
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1949 Dutch 'Cyrus' Track bike on E-bay in S.A.
Postby HappyHumber » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:27 pm
I'd be curious to hear comments from some of our resident experts
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Postby stevendavid75 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:52 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... :IT&ih=013
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Postby GaryF » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:54 pm
Looking at the Dutch bike I can't imagine how difficult it must have been reaching the drops while trying to sprint hard. Contorting your body to that angle must have restricted breathing.
I didn't know the Oppy Malvern Star came in a limited edition gold model. Such a wonderful piece of Aussie cycling history; I hope it returns to Australia.
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Postby HappyHumber » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:03 pm
Were Malvern Star associated with BSA?GaryF wrote:I didn't know the Oppy Malvern Star came in a limited edition gold model.
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Postby Kid_Carbine » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:17 pm
When Oppy rode in overseas locations, like in the UK, it would seem that he rode BSA branded bikes, but here's the rub.
In Australia, General Accessories was the national distributor of BSA [Birmingham Small Arms] components, but General Accessories was a division of BSA [Bruce Small Australia] This was the holding company.
Now of course BS Australia also owned Malvern Star & in the 20's & 30's Malvern Star bikes were built with best quality [or lesser quality, depending on the model] BS Arms components.
It would seem that while in the UK [& elsewhere?] BS Arms would supply the cycles for Oppy to race on under some contractural arrangement & it would appear a possibility that they also sold 'replica' models for public consumption.
Either that, or the seller has an original Oppy BSA race bike, which seems unlikely in this instance. Either way, it's a bloody good bike but I doubt that it has even seen Australia, but I hope it comes here none-the-less.
Now that's AUSTRALIAN to the core.
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Postby stevendavid75 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:46 pm
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Postby Kid_Carbine » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:56 am
If you look closely, you can see that this is an English made 'Cyclo Oppy' 3 speed derailleur.
[There was also a French Cyclo company]
Conloy Cobra alloy brakes. These first saw the light of day in 1937 I believe.
This is one well equiped machine.
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Postby Mulger bill » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:41 pm
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Postby 531db » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:42 pm
It's a classic slack (~65 degree) angle roadster frame. another case of somebody believing that rear facing dropouts mean track when they were actually very common on a variety of utility type bikes around the world.
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Postby Kid_Carbine » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:16 am
I agree entirely. Rear facing dropouts were the norm on just about ALL bikes untill about the mid 30's, & even then, forward facing road dropouts were quite uncommom untill more modern type derailleurs started to become popular in the 50's.
This is, in fact, a very nicely finished & presented machine, ... but a dedicated track bike? I don't believe so.
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Postby HappyHumber » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:15 am
Eitherway.. this seller isn't half as blatant as that recent Malvern "fixed track" roadster with mudguards & coaster brake recently. Reminder here
Anyway.. I'm just enjoying soaking up the trivia myself in the meantime. Maybe one day I might be actually in a good position to know a genuine vintage bargain when I see it.
I must post about my old Swansea kerbside find. Curious to know what's known of this ol' WA brand outside the routine Google.
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Postby GaryF » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:42 am
I've heard of the Swansea, did they have a swan cut into the lugs or on the head tube?
I'd love to have a ride of the old Dutch Cyrus just to feel what it's like. I've gor a bike with a 70.5 degree seat tube angle and you can feel the difference that makes. You tend to 'push' the pedals more. I saw a photo of an Eddy Merckx bike that Andy Hamsten was riding, in a pro tour race, that had a really relaxed seat tube angle. Eddy was experimenting with rider position at the time. Unfortunately there was no mention of what the outcome was in the article.
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Postby HappyHumber » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:49 am
Yep, at least mine has. I'll get my act together; start a new thread and post some pics of my (sad) example and the one other I've seen perhaps this evening - got a busy day today.GaryF wrote:I've heard of the Swansea, did they have a sawn cut into the lugs or on the head tube?
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