Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
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Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby Stera » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:35 pm
Just started getting into the road bike thing and have had a couple punctures.
Just wondering what people carry when they ride.
I generally carry the following:
* Spare tube
* Tyre change tools
* Keys
* Phone
* One Water bottle (only do uptp 50km rides so far).
The trouble I find is I only have a small bag (under the seat) and no pockets in the jersey and it doesn't all fit!
Im thinking that a jersey is the place to put the phone, but have considered a drink cage container to put my tools and tube in, freeing up the bag under the seat. The only thing, is that I will be limited to one drink bottle.
What do others do/use?
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby TimW » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:39 pm
I put some gels/food/phone in a tri bag
http://www.this link is broken/topeak-tri-bag-with-mesh-cover/
most of my rides over 50 k so allways carry 2 bottles.Tim
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby grnis200 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:26 pm
For a recent event I used my commute pump and got 2 tubes, levers and cash/VISA in the same bag.
Do yourself a favour; get a jersey with pockets for food, wallet and phone. I put my iPhone in a ziplock back for sweat and rain protection although I know many who don't bother protecting it.
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby damhooligan » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:45 pm
Always on the bike.
In my jersey: food/money/phone.
I would advice to always carry two water bottles , even for a short ride.
If it's a warm day, you need both !
You can always use sticky tape to tape the phone to the bike, this wil also free up seabag space...
And you can attach your keys to the seat rails with this:
SCHIJNVEILIGHEID !!
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby wombatK » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:04 pm
There's various size of seat bags - see for example http://www.this link is broken/topeak/saddle-bags/. I use the largest topeak saddle bag. It easily accomodates a spare tube, patch kit, levers, topeak multi-tool with link breaker, spare link and chain pins, rubber gloves, and a 2.5 m coiled stainless steel cable and shrouded padlock. Smaller sizes are more popular with the euro-cool kids who've got a wife or mother on call to bail out of more serious trouble.
Mobile phone usually goes in jersey pocket with ziplock bag, but if caught out without a ziplock, can give it some protection in the saddle bag (it's not rated as waterproof, but seems to keep it dry in light showers).
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby toppity » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:21 pm
Works o.k. for me. I'm not a great fan of under saddle bags. PITA taking them off to race.
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby Xponti » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:23 pm
I carry my phone, wallet, keys, spare tube, levers, patch kit, gels in my jersey pockets. Anything over a ride of 30 minutes and I am carrying two drink bottles. I also trvel with a backpack to work, and so my levers, spare tube and patch kit then go in the backpack. I have a small pump clipped onto a bracket next to a bottle cage.
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby snark » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:39 pm
So a posterior man satchel is bad, but a backpack is ok? I think the rules might need some sort of adjustment...Xponti wrote:It's against the rules (See rule 29 http://www.velominati.com/blog/the-rules/#29 ) to carry a European Posterior Man Satchel http://www.velominati.com/blog/the-lexi ... an+Satchel
I carry my phone, wallet, keys, spare tube, levers, patch kit, gels in my jersey pockets. Anything over a ride of 30 minutes and I am carrying two drink bottles. I also trvel with a backpack to work, and so my levers, spare tube and patch kit then go in the backpack. I have a small pump clipped onto a bracket next to a bottle cage.
I use a largish Toppeak too as has been mentioned. That has two tubes (ever since I had two flats on one ride) and a few other bits and pieces, and the phone fits in as well.
My question is for the longer than 2-or-3 hour rides where there isn't a easy bottle fill available. Time for a camelbak? I've seen a couple of drink holders that appear to be mounted on the saddle while riding around, but don't know if that would interfere with a saddlebag.
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby sogood » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:47 am
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby wombatK » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:00 pm
Depends how much dead weight you want to carry. 2 x 750 ml bidons give you 1.5 litres. The next step up from that is a 2.0 litre camelbak - gives you 30 % more, but also means you're carrying an extra 500 g for a lot of the journey - and it's higher up (on your back) rather than low in the bike frame.snark wrote: My question is for the longer than 2-or-3 hour rides where there isn't a easy bottle fill available. Time for a camelbak? I've seen a couple of drink holders that appear to be mounted on the saddle while riding around, but don't know if that would interfere with a saddlebag.
Cheers,
Simon.
A 3.0 litre camelbak will take you even further, but again at a much bigger weight penalty and strain your back and arms even more. FWIW, I have a 2 l camelbak that I use for the longer rides in hot weather - one-third to half frozen to keep it cool along the way. The main advantage is that I can keep the drink nice and cold longer than by freezing bidons, and can sometimes even get a top-up with some ice remaining to chill the added water.
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Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby Redbull » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:44 pm
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby ALAN Roadie » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:41 am
"A 3.0 litre camelbak will take you even further, but again at a much bigger weight penalty and strain your back and arms even more. FWIW, I have a 2 l camelbak that I use for the longer rides in hot weather - one-third to half frozen to keep it cool along the way. The main advantage is that I can keep the drink nice and cold longer than by freezing bidons, and can sometimes even get a top-up with some ice remaining to chill the added water"
I was always led to believe, in other sporting pursuits I have done, that cold water is no good during extensive excercise as it can increase cramp. Should be consumed at body temperature. is this different in the bike world??
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby wombatK » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:02 pm
Not it's not. See Sports Dietians web-site http://www.sportsdietitians.com.au/cont ... adCycling/ALAN Roadie wrote:
I was always led to believe, in other sporting pursuits I have done, that cold water is no good during extensive excercise as it can increase cramp. Should be consumed at body temperature. is this different in the bike world??
and particularly follow the link to the Fluids in Sport article.
For training or exercise over one hour in duration, isotonic drinks will have a better effect as they do not disrupt your body cells electrolyte balance like straight water would.
See http://www.sportsdietitians.com.au/reso ... 0Aug10.pdf for the options. If I take my camelbak, it's a long ride and I put gatorade in it.
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby ALAN Roadie » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:13 am
Hey WombatkwombatK wrote:Not it's not. See Sports Dietians web-site http://www.sportsdietitians.com.au/cont ... adCycling/ALAN Roadie wrote:
I was always led to believe, in other sporting pursuits I have done, that cold water is no good during extensive excercise as it can increase cramp. Should be consumed at body temperature. is this different in the bike world??
and particularly follow the link to the Fluids in Sport article.
For training or exercise over one hour in duration, isotonic drinks will have a better effect as they do not disrupt your body cells electrolyte balance like straight water would.
See http://www.sportsdietitians.com.au/reso ... 0Aug10.pdf for the options. If I take my camelbak, it's a long ride and I put gatorade in it.
I was not disputing the fact that you need to rehydrate, thats a no brainer for anyone who is into fitness / sport. i was more questioning the temperature of the liquid. it was always explained to me, including by an Olympic field coach, that water was always best consumed at body temperature to help it's absorbtion. This was in the late 80's. It seems that, as these things do, the thoughts on this have changed. You definately seem to be doing the right thing chilling your water as it is now widely considered that COLD water, not body temperature, is absorbed faster by the body.
Into the fridge go my bidons from now on.
Thanks
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby Stera » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:52 pm
I’ve added a second bottle cage and was expecting to hold a tube and tools in a container, but came to the conclusion, that if I want to ride and decent speed over decent kilometres, Im going to need another water bottle.
Therefore, Im going to shove the tube and food in the jersey and everything else (tools, phone and keys) in the seat bag. That way food is easier to access, etc. Pumps on the bike under the bottle cage.
Lets hope it works!
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Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby The Walrus » Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:41 pm
Desperately trying to avoid the whole 'bum bag' scene but you can get quite slick looking bags that go around the waist and could easily take a phone, money/card, keys and maybe other bits.
The ones I know about are actually dog walking specific but could be used for anything!
This kind of thing
http://www.doog.com.au/shop/category/ca ... Belts.html
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby wombatK » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:02 pm
If you don't want a large saddle bag, an alternate is that you can get triangular shaped bags that strap to the front or back underside of the top-tube. The front ones make a mobile phone pretty easy to reach. I don't have them, but if you search the forum you should be able to find pics of some on Christine's Hello Kitty bike.The Walrus wrote: Desperately trying to avoid the whole 'bum bag' scene but you can get quite slick looking bags that go around the waist and could easily take a phone, money/card, keys and maybe other bits.
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby chill » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:09 pm
I find with my seat and seatpost setup there isn't a lot of space and the bag overlaps where the back of my legs are. I put most of my stuff in my jersey pockets but would rather have the tube/tools/co2 on the bike.
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby Chef » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:47 pm
chill wrote:What's the smallest, slimmest, most unobtrusive seat bag?
I find with my seat and seatpost setup there isn't a lot of space and the bag overlaps where the back of my legs are. I put most of my stuff in my jersey pockets but would rather have the tube/tools/co2 on the bike.
Hi,
http://www.bike24.net/p218900.html - small and neat, but you will need to put CO2's in jersy pocket or use a mini pump.....
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby chill » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:57 pm
That's just perfect. Cheers!Chef wrote:chill wrote:What's the smallest, slimmest, most unobtrusive seat bag?
I find with my seat and seatpost setup there isn't a lot of space and the bag overlaps where the back of my legs are. I put most of my stuff in my jersey pockets but would rather have the tube/tools/co2 on the bike.
Hi,
http://www.bike24.net/p218900.html - small and neat, but you will need to put CO2's in jersy pocket or use a mini pump.....
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby Leeroy » Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:49 pm
I used to carry Co2 but no longer do that due to a few mishaps - a good mini pump is better, doesn't take much longer to inflate and actually use less space. The Lezyne ones are fantastic btw. Pump, spare tube, repair kit (including tyre levers) and phone (inside ziplock bag) all comfortably fit into jersey pockets with more than enough room for a banana/get etc as well. Keys & minitool stay at home.
This leaves me with two bidons free for longer rides.
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby davidk » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:04 am
I can just fit 4 CO2 carts and 2 tyre levers into it, at a push.
I carry 1 spare tube, which I have folded up and compressed as tight as I can, and place it in the space between the top of the seat post and the bottom of the seat, nested between the seat rails. Its out of the way and nice and neat.
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Re: Carrying tubes - Drink cage or bag
Postby gururug » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:58 pm
Warmer liquids save some energy as the body does not have to take temp from it's core to lower. Electrolites/Salts or lack of relate to cramp.
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