Cleaning?
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Cleaning?
Postby Crawf » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:30 am
I have done a search and it pretty much came up with nothing in The Shed.
I'm after some info on what liquids to use for cleaning the cassette & derailleurs along with any tools to help make the job easier? Also, whats best to wash the frame without damaging the paint?
Are there any 'how to' articles around at all?
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Postby Birdman » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:41 am
Mainly you would just use an aerosol citrus degreaser, an old rag, and maybe a toothbrush. But you can get dedicated cleaners for doing the cogs. Then again you can get dedicated chain cleaners also.
I would suggest a citrus degreaser. From your LBS, Auto centre or Bunnings, etc. Just make sure you don't leave any moving parts oil/lube free for too long as they will have no protection.
Hope this helps.
Mitch.
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Postby europa » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:17 pm
One should also note that I'm happy to live with that dreadful stink and that I believe that mechanical parts look better when (slightly) oily than when stripped dead clean (there's a difference between 'oily' and 'dirty') - others disagree with both these views and so use things like the citrus degreasers.
The citrus degreasers do seem to be the pick of the alternatives to kero - cheap, non-stinky, available and biodegradable.
I use kero, paint brush, tooth brush, one of those skinny brushes for getting between cassettes and a chain cleaner. The last two are used because I bought them to see what they were like and haven't broken them yet - they have their place but I probably won't buy replacements. I also use an old baking tray which sits underneath what I'm cleaning and this does a good job of collecting the dripping kero, thus reducing the mess.
You won't in the Shed because it's a relatively new forum. This subject has been done to death before but in other forums so I suggest you widen your search and do it again. A lot has been said and a lot offered in the past, and I suspect much of it won't be said again (because it's been done to death). To get the full story, do a search of the whole forum. Having said that, I'm glad you raised it again because although there are a few of us who aren't going to change our opinions, with our constant flow of new members and new cyclists, this is a topic that can be redone from time to time ... just don't be shocked if someone accuses you of trying to start a war (it's one of the 'religious' topics )I have done a search and it pretty much came up with nothing in The Shed.
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Postby Andrew Grace » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:03 pm
I've been using kero on my motorbike chains and sprockets for years.
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Postby Mulger bill » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:37 pm
When I do get around to the frame, a bit of WD40 on a rag works well, just don't spray it around.
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Postby uncle arthur » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:10 pm
If I'm going to look after my car, I may as well look after my bike just as well.
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Postby laterstarter » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:01 pm
Birdman wrote:
Mainly you would just use an aerosol citrus degreaser, an old rag, and maybe a toothbrush. But you can get dedicated cleaners for doing the cogs. Then again you can get dedicated chain cleaners also.
I would suggest a citrus degreaser. From your LBS, Auto centre or Bunnings, etc. Just make sure you don't leave any moving parts oil/lube free for too long as they will have no protection.
Hope this helps.
Mitch.
I was recommended and have tried the spray on degreasers from Super Cheap Auto. Like citrus degreasers which I now tend to use citrus degreasers with a good rinse and lube after. Alll seem to work OK but I have no idea how any of them may affect the bling bits or the paint on frame in the longer term.
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Postby silverlight » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:23 pm
Postby Hawkeye » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:27 pm
A change in chain manufacturer on the commuter has meant that it's better to leave it on the bike so I "invested" in a Pedro's chain machine. The degreaser that comes with it is something else. Combined with the chain machine it gets the chain cleaner than my old method with the full rinse and spin cycle in kero, and it's water soluble. Other citrus cleaners I've tried have been pretty ordinary.
After rinsing the degreaser off with the hose (good excuse to water the lawn) and drying with a rag, a drop of White Lightning on each chain roller, a quick backwards spin for a minute to work it in, followed by spinning it back through a rag to wipe off the excess, and I'm ready to go.
For the cassette I just stretch a rag between my hands and wipe back and forwards between the sprockets with the wheel off the bike. I have one of those cassette brushes that is quite useful and a general bike cleaning brush I got off T7 that between them are good for getting dried crud off just about all the bike.
If you have discs be very careful to keep degreaser and lubricants well away.
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Postby Mulger bill » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:26 pm
Damn important point that, If it happens metho should fix the rotors.j.r.hawkins wrote:If you have discs be very careful to keep degreaser and lubricants well away.
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Postby Bnej » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:48 am
K-Mart near the paint, you'll find all the kerosene, methylated spirits, turpentine, etc. Camping supplies or hardware stores will probably stock it too.peter wrote:So where can I buy this wonderful kerosene? Camping supplies?
I used kerosene to clean a chain once but it smells so bad I doubt I'll do it that way again. Don't bring it indoors without the cap on!
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Postby sogood » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:24 am
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby stryker84 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:31 am
That's methylated spirits, btw. i.e., spirits (ethanol) with methanol added to denature it (make it toxic therefore undrinkable).Bnej wrote:...mentholated spirits...
Mentholated spirits would be spirit with menthol , which is commonly used as a mint-flavouring agent, as well as in various therapeutic products.
It's a very common misspelling. Even the Victorian WorkCover site has it misspelled in the summary of this article.
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Postby Bnej » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:33 pm
I meant to type it correctly, but spell check fixed it for me! Didn't look at what it got changed to.stryker84 wrote:That's methylated spirits, btw. i.e., spirits (ethanol) with methanol added to denature it (make it toxic therefore undrinkable).Bnej wrote:...mentholated spirits...
Mentholated spirits would be spirit with menthol , which is commonly used as a mint-flavouring agent, as well as in various therapeutic products.
It's a very common misspelling...
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Postby Birdman » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:36 pm
My inlaws and parents both have stills to make their own alcohol and there is some sort of biproduct of it is metho so i think i can get plenty of that.
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Postby stryker84 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:39 pm
Um, should you really be sharing this info with everyone?Birdman wrote:Good old methylated spirits aye.
My inlaws and parents both have stills to make their own alcohol and there is some sort of biproduct of it is metho so i think i can get plenty of that.
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Postby s-s-a » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:11 pm
Kero would be ok for the roadie as I use Triflow lube but on the mtb the film of oil left behind is a dust magnet (oil+dust=grinding paste) and I need everything clean to apply Pedros extra-dry lube.
I agree with Mr Sheen for the frame duco - we don't use that junk on furniture here it's kept in the shed for bikes. And some leather cream for the saddle (back before I moved in with my other half I used vaseline on my saddles).
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