Commuting for beginners
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Commuting for beginners
Postby Nick - Pie Man » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:13 am
I have recently discovered the liberation and joy of riding a bicycle for the first time in my life and I am excited and would like to use the bike in place of the car as often as possible.
It seems to require a different skill set. Driving is easy - point and shoot. Riding a bike though I find that if I look at the ground I lose my balance and if I look at a car (as in 'dont hit that car') I invariably hit the car. The chap that helped me learn how to ride did say that you tend to go wherever your eyes are pointing. Does that sound right?
If so then does that mean that you must be using your peripheral vision to detect hazards? That may take some getting used to.
I assume it is legal to take bikes onto trains? Pakenham to Dandenong might be a little out of reach at the moment, I was blowing after half an hour around the neighbourhood last night.
How do you know where the bike paths are? Pathfinding would be radiacally different I guess since you are no longer restricted to driving on roads? Where would you go to find this stuff out?
Finally, does bicycle victoria or any other riding group or organisation conduct rider safety courses - the way murcott's do for cars - ? You don't just hit the road without any training do you? Or do you?
I am very new at this and would appreciate whatever help you can give me.
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby deekrockingbeat » Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:23 pm
1) pick your routes to minimise heavy traffic spots
2) ride defensive assume you are invisble to everyone
3) dont ride too close to parked cars
4) ride at least half a meter in from the gutter, claim the lane when you can
5) dont break any road laws,
6) do hook turns if you are not confident turning right.
7) park yourself on the left in the middle lane when there is a red but with a left green arrow.
be visible and be seen
9) ride consistently in predictable behavior, clear signalling
i live in port melbourne and i ride everywhere, only use the car when im going into the burbs, its great going to the footy dont have to worry about parking or public transport. enjoy riding!
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby jet-ski » Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:54 pm
practice looking over your shoulder on quiet roads while keeping the bars straight.,..
and it may look dorky but a lot of members here swear by their mirrors...
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby Nick - Pie Man » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:03 pm
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby cp123 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:42 pm
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby deekrockingbeat » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:58 pm
at the G same theory goes i usually lock it near a stall or shop or in full view of the entance. ive been to a few reserves games at victoria park i usually take the front wheel into the ground. the two lock theory i also agree with.
and yes you can take a bike onto a train but use common sense when doing in peak hour. i believe u can also take fold up bikes onto tram and bus but someone needs to confirm this.
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby trailgumby » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:15 pm
So that you can score me, I ride:
- Bike with Panniers
Bright fluoro yellow vest over my jersey
Reflective panels on knicks and panniers
2 blinking lights facing rear, one of which is a 1/2 watt unit
Helmet and bar mounted retina-burning headlights that I use to go racing in the forest at night on my mountain bike
Ride my bike (and position it on the road) exactly like I dive my car...
... which usually means ride either in the wheel tracks or the middle of the lane (with the exception of a few select locations where I have made the calculated choice to ride the footpath because of the high rates of encounter with openly hostile drivers).
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby westab » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:19 pm
Agree with the all three of the above - I commute with a mirror and would not ride now without one, Bikely is also great.jet-ski wrote:http://www.bikely.com for bike routes
practice looking over your shoulder on quiet roads while keeping the bars straight.,..
and it may look dorky but a lot of members here swear by their mirrors...
On the practice front - quiet roads are great but another alternative are local netball courts when not in use (large flet area). Practice balance, bike control, looking behind, or whatever else.
The trick is to do it a slow speed as bikes are harder to balance when going slowly. If you can do it slow,you can do it at normal speed.
Good luck. Enjoy riding.
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby Nick - Pie Man » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:44 pm
Will definitely look at getting some mirrors, I've driven enough to know how handy they are.
Is it possible to buy a crowbar attachment to belt hostile drivers with? Or is that something that might not be so legal?
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby Nick - Pie Man » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:49 pm
Reflecting on the way I drive - for some incomprehensible reason, this theory makes sense. I give way too much space to unusual vehicles.trailgumby wrote:The best tip I can offer you is to subscribe to the Theory of BIG
So that you can score me, I ride:
- Bike with Panniers
Bright fluoro yellow vest over my jersey
Reflective panels on knicks and panniers
2 blinking lights facing rear, one of which is a 1/2 watt unit
Helmet and bar mounted retina-burning headlights that I use to go racing in the forest at night on my mountain bike
Ride my bike (and position it on the road) exactly like I dive my car...
... which usually means ride either in the wheel tracks or the middle of the lane (with the exception of a few select locations where I have made the calculated choice to ride the footpath because of the high rates of encounter with openly hostile drivers).
Do you find that it works?
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby jet-ski » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:09 pm
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby Hamster » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:12 pm
Might I suggest a minor alteration to the above "take 2 DIFFERENT locks" If some thieving piece of scum can open/smash one type of lock then they can open/smash another of the same type. Two different locks makes their life just that little bit more difficult. Locks with die-cast aluminium bodies are close to useless.just take 2 locks. Any thieving scum will think they don't want to mess about any more than necessary and will go on to the next one.
Give a little thought to what you chain your bike to, for example if you chain your bike to a rubbish bin supporting post all the thief might have to do is lift the bin off its support and then lift your bike up and over the post and then take you bike complete with intact lock.
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby jasonc » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:31 pm
I love my airhorn. Puts a smile on my face EVERYTIME I use it.jet-ski wrote:Nick - maybe not a crow bar but an Air Zound - http://www.this link is broken/Delta-Air-Z ... ders-115db sometimes helps
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby JBark » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:44 am
http://www.this link is broken/Zefal-Spy-Mirror-for-Bikes
Thinking of picking up one myself, since quite a few of the roads I ride don't leave me a lot of breathing room when it comes to looking over my shoulder.
I keep my rear flashing light on at all times, even during the day. I've checked, and even the ultra cheap one I have is noticeable from a distance during the day. Front flasher isn't a bad idea all the time either, but I've found the flashing white light isn't really noticeable during the day.
Carry some repair bits with you. Patches, tire levers, hand pump and/or C02 pump, extra tube, small bike tool with a few hex and screwdriver ends. Those bits will take care of about 99% of the problems you're going to have, and anything else is probably above our repair level anyway. I just pack everything in an extra water bottle and it's the perfect carrier. Take the bottle with you when locking up the bike, and no worries about stuff getting stolen.
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby Nick - Pie Man » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:46 pm
The faster you move, the more stable the bike becomes - or so I have heard? Logically then with enough pedal power and an appropriate gear ratio you should be able to scoot along at 100kph right? No?
Is it true that once you reach a certain velocity it becomes unstable - or is that more to do with the speed that you rotate the pedals?
Wondering if the 20kph I achieved last night is fast or slow.
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:08 pm
IMO, once you've reached a certain speed, the bicycle/rider will be as stable as it will ever be. There are instances of instability at higher speeds, some bikes have been decried as guaranteed to get speed wobbles but again, IMO it is a function of the whole bike/rider "system", the right speed on the right bike with the right rider holding the right posture will initiate a wobble every time. Take away any of these variables and you won't be a passenger to one. Yes, it's happened to me, once. I do my best to avoid repeating the circumstances
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Postby jet-ski » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:50 pm
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Postby trailgumby » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:39 pm
I'm pleased to report no speed wobbles.
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby Nick - Pie Man » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:33 am
So, I took the bike out for a spin again last night in the rain.It was quite nice actually riding through the streets in the middle of the night through the wet. BUT- the brakes! The front brakes especially - they started squealing whenever I squeezed the handles. Why? Is this something that normally happens when the rims get wet, or have I broken something and not realised it? They were squealing hard and making one hell of a racket. Is that normal in the wet?
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Commuting for beginners
Postby Comedian » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:30 am
Mate that noise is grit off the road grinding you rims away. . If you lookNick - Pie Man wrote:That is seriously awesome. I have driven cars that could not reach that speed.
So, I took the bike out for a spin again last night in the rain.It was quite nice actually riding through the streets in the middle of the night through the wet. BUT- the brakes! The front brakes especially - they started squealing whenever I squeezed the handles. Why? Is this something that normally happens when the rims get wet, or have I broken something and not realised it? They were squealing hard and making one hell of a racket. Is that normal in the wet?
In the light of day you'll see black marks (if your pads are black) and aluminum paste on the wheels
It's not really something you can do anything about and you will eventually wear your rims out if you ride in the rain a lot.
Disk brakes get around the problem but roller brakes are even better.
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby Nick - Pie Man » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:36 am
There is a residue on the rim, ugly black stuff, I guess if I clean it off and keep her dry she should be right to go.
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Re: Commuting for beginners
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby Nick - Pie Man » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:38 am
You've probably heard this question a million times before .. what's the go with lights and reflectors? I ride around at night a lot and would feel much safer with head and tail lights instead of piddly little street sign reflectors. Is it true that you have to have reflectors on your bike by law? Surely lights would do a better job?
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Re: Commuting for beginners
Postby jet-ski » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:49 am
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