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ride to canberra
Postby Wayfarer » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:22 pm
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby Wayfarer » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:38 pm
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Re: ride to canberra
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby lovemybike » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:17 pm
If I can give it a go...Old and Rusty wrote:I'd love to do this ride but I'd be months away from that kind of stamina. If you're thinking Feb/Mar then I'd be a starter.
Feb/March would be too hot!
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby zero » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:49 pm
Average speeds of 30 is a lot harder than you might think. Its only feasible on a non windy day - prevailing wind unless its raining is in your face from Moss Vale until you get shelter from the ridge at Lake George. Also you are climbing 600m more to the Tablelands area than you are descending, and then its at best "rolling" country side from then on, punctuated by some long climbs.
Have to be aware that not every bridge on the route has a shoulder too, and you can only book a finite number of bikes back with country link.
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby lovemybike » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:44 pm
Oh.zero wrote:If its after July 31, I'd consider it (I have a secret bailout / spare parts stash option strategically located on the route).
Average speeds of 30 is a lot harder than you might think. Its only feasible on a non windy day - prevailing wind unless its raining is in your face from Moss Vale until you get shelter from the ridge at Lake George. Also you are climbing 600m more to the Tablelands area than you are descending, and then its at best "rolling" country side from then on, punctuated by some long climbs.
Have to be aware that not every bridge on the route has a shoulder too, and you can only book a finite number of bikes back with country link.
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby zero » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:31 pm
Its quite doable - don't mind me - I just know exactly where a group will strike the wind if its a windy day, and how much that will hurt, compared to a still daylovemybike wrote:
Oh.
5 riders should have no problem with country link, but I don't think they'll be able to accomodate 30.
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby lovemybike » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:08 pm
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Postby lovemybike » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:38 pm
Yes, but no-one will mention it if you shout everyone coffee in BowralDaveOZ wrote:Maybe. Since I live in Bowral would it be cheating to join there and miss most of the hills?
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby Wayfarer » Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:03 am
Hey, thanks alot for this info mate! I had no idea about the bridges; I followed the whole route on google maps and that didn't catch my eye; I was under the impression that the only place without bike path was a 3km stretch inside Canberra, on the way to the train station. Between 3:00 and 3:20, he says '230km' and '12 hours', which equates roughly to a 20km/h average, while solo on a mtb.. With 3-4 people drafting each other in a line, do you recon it'll be possible to hold 25-27km/h?zero wrote:If its after July 31, I'd consider it (I have a secret bailout / spare parts stash option strategically located on the route).
Average speeds of 30 is a lot harder than you might think. Its only feasible on a non windy day - prevailing wind unless its raining is in your face from Moss Vale until you get shelter from the ridge at Lake George. Also you are climbing 600m more to the Tablelands area than you are descending, and then its at best "rolling" country side from then on, punctuated by some long climbs.
Have to be aware that not every bridge on the route has a shoulder too, and you can only book a finite number of bikes back with country link.
Sure, but then we'll have two Dave's on the ride, and I know which one will be drafting which According to the CountryLink website, the prices from Canberra to Campbelltown is $33.09 + $12.10 = $45.19 for passenger & bicycle, and takes 3:33 to get back.DaveOZ wrote:Maybe. Since I live in Bowral would it be cheating to join there and miss most of the hills?
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby zero » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:59 pm
However if it was just me, I'd spend at least an hour stationary - 2x meal stops with coffee, toilet breaks and bidon refills, and I also doubt the efficiency advantages of a 4 rider non pro paceline where the fitness of the riders will be variable, especially over such a long distance, where staying tight is pretty hard to sustain.
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Postby Wayfarer » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:15 pm
Yeah, I doubted we'd really be able to hold out a perfect form for that many hours, but having someone (or multiple people) always makes it that much easier. Especially over the 250km distance, where even a 10% drop in air resistance will create a huge drop in fatigue and increase in morale. More reason to test ourselves the weekend before too Any idea about the drop out options? I've heard Goulburn is the best place to drop off, and catch a train straight back.zero wrote:I'd suspect that I could solo it with a moving average of 27 if its not windy. I'm getting really close to be able to do 36 for an hour, so I don't have to work hard to do 27.
However if it was just me, I'd spend at least an hour stationary - 2x meal stops with coffee, toilet breaks and bidon refills, and I also doubt the efficiency advantages of a 4 rider non pro paceline where the fitness of the riders will be variable, especially over such a long distance, where staying tight is pretty hard to sustain.
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby fatherofmany » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:51 pm
I did Loop The Lake in March at a 30 average but that was just under 90km. And that hurt a bit more than I thought it would. Mind you, there was only 2 of us and I was leading the whole way.
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby timbo » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:05 am
There are signs saying no bicycles allowed and there is no shoulder to ride on, and will be very dodgy.
Either take the Campbelltown exit, and then Blaxland Road before heading up Narellan Road back to the F5, or catch a train to Campbelltown or Macarthur and start from there.
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby lovemybike » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:36 am
Very true, dangerous at the momenttimbo wrote:Just be careful of roadworks between The Campbelltown turn off on the F5 and the Narellan road on-off ramps on the M5.
There are signs saying no bicycles allowed and there is no shoulder to ride on, and will be very dodgy.
Either take the Campbelltown exit, and then Blaxland Road before heading up Narellan Road back to the F5, or catch a train to Campbelltown or Macarthur and start from there.
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby hannos » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:15 pm
timbo wrote:Just be careful of roadworks between The Campbelltown turn off on the F5 and the Narellan road on-off ramps on the M5.
There are signs saying no bicycles allowed and there is no shoulder to ride on, and will be very dodgy.
Either take the Campbelltown exit, and then Blaxland Road before heading up Narellan Road back to the F5, or catch a train to Campbelltown or Macarthur and start from there.
On that note, Bicycles are supposed to turn off at Brooks Road. However, there is a nice shoulder all the way to campbelltown Road although there are still roadworks on the Campbelltown Road exit so not too sure of the road surface or even if there is room for cyclists. Don't even think about trying to go from the Campbelltown Road exit to Narellan Road exit along the F5. You'll most certainly be hit by a car or truck. There is NO room whatsoever.
This is the route I take to avoid the roadworks along the F5 when riding home to Mt Annan
http://www.strava.com/segments/f5-bypass-668389
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby hannos » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:24 pm
Williamson Road is 2 lanes but they're very wide lanes. Occasionally I'll have a bogan in a holden (or tradie) ute honk at me as they drive past. Just blow them a kiss if they do.
It's single lane left onto Campbelltown Road and it becomes a 900m 6% gradient climb. There's room off the side of the road (for single file riding) pretty much all the way to Queen St. I choose this over Blaxland Road as Blaxxland (in peak hour) is 2 lanes and very busy. (and after 40km of commuting home I'm too tired to try and keep a high pace)
Queen St 2 lanes no shoulder. I've never had a problem taking one entire lane. I move over when I get to the lights at Broughton St.
Broughton St is about 50m of single lane. I suggest taking the entire lane then onto Hurley St (it's the only way you can go).
Hurley St is 2 lanes and again I take the entire lane. Never had a problem.
At that roundabout before Narellan Road you'll want to move over into the right hand lane. It becomes one of the 2 Right Turn lanes to head west onto Narellan Road.
Narellan road has a cycle lane but you have to watch for glass. Once you pass Blaxland Rd you have a large shoulder to ride up the hill to the F5 on ramp.
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Re: ride to canberra
Postby norbs » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:24 pm
There are loads of hills. A few like this one at Nattai Creek.
And you need to watch out for this stuff too.
Depending when it is, I might be interested.
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