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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby bianchi928 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:10 pm
Isn't that like abuying a group set and getting a free frame and wheels (reynold's solitudes) on the assumption you are buying the groupset locally, not on the net.
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby bostonceltics » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:21 am
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:33 pm
Starting to seem a bit like vapourware ....
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Postby MarkG » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:06 pm
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Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:04 pm
It was also meant tio be the Friday before as well.MarkG wrote:They said Friday, cut them some slack.
If I had said one date, missed that, and then missed it again, I'd at least post something, but 6 days later, nothing .....
What other conclusion is there ?
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby MarkG » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:18 pm
http://blog.cyclingexpress.com/?p=89#comment-11
"Whilst it’s annoying to come under fire (before we’ve even launched!), we understand that there are always going to be haters in this world.
It’s Wednesday, we’re working night and day to get this shop live by end of play Friday. No time to entertain the haters right now. We’ll just keep our heads down!"
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby CommuRider » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:22 pm
While it's nice to be notified about this new online bike store, I'm sure Cell Bikes didn't make such a big fuss when they launched their online store. Anyway, the proof's in the pudding. If half of the members here start using Cycling Express, then good. If not, then it was one big, [expensive] marketing exercise.
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby goneriding » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:25 pm
It's an IT based project. Have you ever tried to get an accurate date out of a developer? Either that or they decided that some testing might be appropriate a day or so prior to release and found that nothing worked as designed. I'd say a 1 week slip is normal. Even if they are a month late I wouldn't be surprised. Some of the alleged tier 1 "Blue Chip" companies I work for manage to slip IT projects by months or even years even to the point of not at all!MichaelB wrote:What other conclusion is there ?
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby sblack » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:26 pm
Umm... how about this post yesterday?MichaelB wrote:It was also meant tio be the Friday before as well.MarkG wrote:They said Friday, cut them some slack.
If I had said one date, missed that, and then missed it again, I'd at least post something, but 6 days later, nothing .....
What other conclusion is there ?
bostonceltics wrote:Hey mate, site should be up this Friday night.MarkG wrote:I thought they were sposed to go live yesterday!?
The retail store in Bayswater is now almost 3 times size, massive range and looks awesome, you'd be surprised how good it looks, check it out if you are in the area. And new developments are still in the works also!
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:31 pm
I'm not a Twitter/Facebook/Myspace/Youtube user so missed this one.MarkG wrote:It's on their face book page.
http://blog.cyclingexpress.com/?p=89#comment-11
"Whilst it’s annoying to come under fire (before we’ve even launched!), we understand that there are always going to be haters in this world.
It’s Wednesday, we’re working night and day to get this shop live by end of play Friday. No time to entertain the haters right now. We’ll just keep our heads down!"
Not sure about the "haters" comment. If you can't be sure that you are going to get it right on a ceratin date, then don't promiise a second date and still miss that.
As Commurider says, not good form in this day and age. Yiou essentially only get one chance, and it's pretty hard to recover.
Even if you are head down bum up trying to fix it, how hard is it to give daily (or more frequent) updates ?
I'll keep standingby to standby.
Sure a few tantalising loss leaders to suck people in, but what is after that ? Hopefully lots more.
(AT) Goneriding - I work as a Project Manager, so well aware of slip. Still, a good PM won't promise things and miss dates twice. Not good.
@sblack - I live in Adelaide, so can't drop by. But when in Melbourne just before Xmas, will pop by for sure to have a stickybeak.
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Postby goneriding » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:35 pm
Therein lies your answer, perhaps? I have the dubious pleasure of working with lots of PM's and unfortunately, there aren't very many good ones. The good ones are to be treasured!MichaelB wrote:a good PM
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby CommuRider » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:36 pm
Then the marketing people should be talking more closely to their IT people instead of having the former run away with hypeing this up.goneriding wrote: It's an IT based project. Have you ever tried to get an accurate date out of a developer?
In the mean time, this will lose momentum the more it gets delayed and people will just stick to Wiggle and c r c because it's another case of an Australian/local based retailer's unreliability or failing to deliver to the hype.
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:36 pm
I try my best ..... Mind you, don't work in IT, so that helps a lot ....goneriding wrote:Therein lies your answer, perhaps? I have the dubious pleasure of working with lots of PM's and unfortunately, there aren't very many good ones. The good ones are to be treasured!MichaelB wrote:a good PM
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby bostonceltics » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:40 pm
MichaelB wrote:MarkG wrote:It's on their face book page.
http://blog.cyclingexpress.com/?p=89#comment-11
I'm not a Twitter/Facebook/Myspace/Youtube user so missed this one.
Not sure about the "haters" comment. If you can't be sure that you are going to get it right on a ceratin date, then don't promiise a second date and still miss that.
As Commurider says, not good form in this day and age. Yiou essentially only get one chance, and it's pretty hard to recover.
Even if you are head down bum up trying to fix it, how hard is it to give daily (or more frequent) updates ?
I'll keep standingby to standby.
Sure a few tantalising loss leaders to suck people in, but what is after that ? Hopefully lots more.
(AT) Goneriding - I work as a Project Manager, so well aware of slip. Still, a good PM won't promise things and miss dates twice. Not good.
@sblack - I live in Adelaide, so can't drop by. But when in Melbourne just before Xmas, will pop by for sure to have a stickybeak.
Michael, Cycling Express were hoping for last Friday but had to extend to this Friday, so they haven't missed dates twice.
Chill out a bit bro, one more day and you can check it out to your hearts content.
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby bostonceltics » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:43 pm
Seriously guys, why so much negativity, it's only a one week delay. Chill out a bit, at least someone in Australia is trying their best to deliver an alternative.CommuRider wrote:Then the marketing people should be talking more closely to their IT people instead of having the former run away with hypeing this up.goneriding wrote: It's an IT based project. Have you ever tried to get an accurate date out of a developer?
In the mean time, this will lose momentum the more it gets delayed and people will just stick to Wiggle and c r c because it's another case of an Australian/local based retailer's unreliability or failing to deliver to the hype.
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:51 pm
Well that is not clear, as no date is specified.bostonceltics wrote:
Michael, I think you might have got your wires crossed a little mate. Cycling Express were hoping for last Friday but had to extend to this Friday, so they haven't missed dates twice.
Chill out a bit bro, one more day and you can check it out to your hearts content.
Have no money anyway, as I need to save to buy a Volagi Liscio anyway....
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Postby goneriding » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:07 pm
I'd also expect that over the first month or so there will be some problems as the load increases on the site as typically projects of this type don't consider this in their requirements, especially if they don't have prior exposure to the industry. The number of times I've seen this scenario is depressing in the extreme. Unfortunately, all of these things end up costing money, which hasn't typically been budgeted for.
Personally, I hope that the site flies and does compete so we can start a thread about delivery times from Cycling Express or see even more competative pricing from O/S because of local competition.
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Postby MarkG » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:10 pm
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Postby Ross » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:19 pm
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Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:27 pm
Amen to the Amen.MarkG wrote:Amen to that
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby }SkOrPn--7 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:29 pm
I would also be interested to know if there going through Australian Suppliers/distributors or they have managed to become there own in order to fetch such deals and make bold price matching claims.
Anyway good luck to them they deserve it I just hope there launch goes of with little headache for a very smooth run.
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby CommuRider » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:31 pm
I think it's hoping not to be bitterly disappointed more than anything else.bostonceltics wrote: Seriously guys, why so much negativity, it's only a one week delay. Chill out a bit, at least someone in Australia is trying their best to deliver an alternative.
Anyway, their first serious competition is really Cell Bikes. If they're more successful than Cell then yes, let's begin to compare it to c r c and Wiggle. But first things first. Cell has first-mover advantage in the Australian scene.
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Postby munga » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:50 pm
to the CE boys, don't mind the knockers - tall poppy syndrome never dies.
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Re: Cycling Express - New AUS online shop to compete with UK
Postby sogood » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:06 pm
Crashing servers I can cope, just come back after midnight. But I sure hope they have their security system done properly. PBK seemed to have a decent track record and I am hesitant with handing out my CC details to a new site. But being local, there's every chance we'll be able to EFT for payment.goneriding wrote:I'd also expect that over the first month or so there will be some problems as the load increases on the site as typically projects of this type don't consider this in their requirements...
As for the hype debate. I think the success and failure of CE will easily rest on the word of mouth experience of users. Good experiences will travel fast across the net and customers will come. If they can't live up to the hype, no amount of hype will sway those hard core mail order shoppers.
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