Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby shiv » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:31 pm

jules21 wrote:that only applies to recreational drugs. there is no 3 strikes in AFL for performance enhancing drugs.


Maybe Tom Boonen should take up playing footy instead then!
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby AUbicycles » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:28 am

I understand the steak in question was Spanish which is why Spanish butchers no longer cheer for Contador.

I don't have facts though know that there is random testing in the EU (duh!) and am speculating that testing every single meat shipment would explode costs and administration.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:45 am

AUbicycles wrote:I understand the steak in question was Spanish which is why Spanish butchers no longer cheer for Contador.

I don't have facts though know that there is random testing in the EU (duh!) and am speculating that testing every single meat shipment would explode costs and administration.

We have plenty of cattle lying around doing nothing....
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby jules21 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:47 am

AUbicycles wrote:I don't have facts though know that there is random testing in the EU (duh!) and am speculating that testing every single meat shipment would explode costs and administration.

i would speculate the same. the purpose of testing is usually to provide a deterrent, by instilling a belief that there is a high enough chance of being caught to assess breaching standards a poor risk-reward proposition. there's no need to test every shipment. (incidentally this is what people really mean when they object to the proliferation of "revenue raising" speed cameras - the risk-reward proposition for speeding stops adding up)
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby brentono » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:00 pm

Try (take a look at) Ractopamine :wink:
(Not on the WADA list, not observed in E.U. and legal in
USA, Canada, Japan, Mexico AND Australia!... same results as Clen)
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby JV911 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:35 pm

trouble brewing at BMC :shock:

anyone speak dutch?

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail ... d=8R3C3DGC
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:51 pm

brentono wrote:Try (take a look at) Ractopamine :wink:
(Not on the WADA list, not observed in E.U. and legal in
USA, Canada, Japan, Mexico AND Australia!... same results as Clen)
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I think you'll find it is prohibited. Ractopamine is a beta agonist.

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Any pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (i.e. drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued) is prohibited at all times.

S3. BETA-2 AGONISTS
All beta-2 agonists (including both optical isomers where relevant) are prohibited except salbutamol (maximum 1600 micrograms over 24 hours) and salmeterol when taken by inhalation in accordance with the manufacturers’ recommended therapeutic regime.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby jules21 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:25 pm

JV911 wrote:trouble brewing at BMC :shock:

anyone speak dutch?

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail ... d=8R3C3DGC

i can't read it, but it sounds like the usual old doping news (Ballan, BMC evolving from Phonak) that will coincidentally be dredged up in July of every year.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby jules21 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:28 pm

or not :shock:

BMC soigneur just arrested for being caught with an EPO stash (in 2009). this is bad news.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby norbs » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:27 pm

jules21 wrote:or not :shock:

BMC soigneur just arrested for being caught with an EPO stash (in 2009). this is bad news.


Nice timing. :roll:


http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/former- ... -drug-bust


Might not be a big deal.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby JV911 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:50 am

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby brentono » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:17 am

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:
brentono wrote:Try (take a look at) Ractopamine :wink:
(Not on the WADA list, not observed in E.U. and legal in
USA, Canada, Japan, Mexico AND Australia!... same results as Clen)
:mrgreen:

I think you'll find it is prohibited. Ractopamine is a beta agonist.

S0. NON-APPROVED SUBSTANCES
Any pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (i.e. drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued) is prohibited at all times.

S3. BETA-2 AGONISTS
All beta-2 agonists (including both optical isomers where relevant) are prohibited except salbutamol (maximum 1600 micrograms over 24 hours) and salmeterol when taken by inhalation in accordance with the manufacturers’ recommended therapeutic regime.


Prohibited (maybe) but not analysed for (I would think) by WADA.... "Not on the WADA list" as stated. :wink:
(and the point was, regularly found in the food chain)
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby jules21 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:31 am

norbs wrote:Might not be a big deal.

it seems to have fizzled out a bit, in the media at least. the guy doesn't seem to be that closely connected to BMC - only helping out now and then. you'd imagine a team wouldn't trust their systemic doping program with a casual assistant.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby JV911 » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:13 am

Quick Step bus seized by French police

The police turned up at the Quick Step hotel late on Friday afternoon and asked for the chauffer of the bus. They then took the bus to the police station in La Roche-sur-Yon, 50km from the Quick Step hotel and half way between the French coast and Mont des Alouettes, where the first stage of the Tour de France will finish on Saturday.

L'Equipe later reported that the team had been tipped off to the search before it happened, and that nothing suspicious was found on the bus and it is to be released back to the team tonight.

It is believed that the police had written legal permission to seize the bus but the Quick Step claimed they do not known the motive for the police action.

"The team wants to specify that no other team vehicle underwent any searches. The team feels' deeply harmed by the consequent media focus on what happened today, which we feel has damaged the team's image and the image of cycling in general," a statement read.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby JV911 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:57 am

Kolobnev Tour de France's first doping case

Katusha rider tests positive for diuretic, leaves Tour
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:43 am

JV911 wrote:Kolobnev Tour de France's first doping case

Katusha rider tests positive for diuretic, leaves Tour

Same one as Shane "my Mum gave it to me" Warne.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby brentono » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:31 pm

Cycling chief: positive test not such a bad thing

"I read that a rider said yesterday he had had three controls in 24 hours, there's a reason for that,"
McQuaid told reporters. "The reason is that the UCI continues to look (for cheaters) —
and if necessary with two or three checks a day."


Draconian, and disruptive :roll:
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby igstar » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:55 pm

I think Andy Schleck was tweeting that he had three within 12 hours.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby scotto » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:50 pm

one of my patients gets drug tested a lot for her sport, and her revelations of the actual mechanations of drug testing were eye opening.
i assumed it was a case of go in there and fill this up. "oh no..." everything needs to be witnessed...

talk about stage fright !! :wink:
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby skull » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:54 pm

scotto wrote:
i assumed it was a case of go in there and fill this up. "oh no..." everything needs to be witnessed...

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Yeah, had a few drug tests for work (military and mines) in the Army we were watched weeing in the cup, at the mines they had a cubicle and a camera that the nurse used to watch from outside.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:00 am

scotto wrote:one of my patients gets drug tested a lot for her sport, and her revelations of the actual mechanations of drug testing were eye opening.
i assumed it was a case of go in there and fill this up. "oh no..." everything needs to be witnessed...

talk about stage fright !! :wink:

There is a well documented process that all athletes that expect to compete and have possibility of being tested should familarise themselves with.

They are all on the ASADA website, along with instructional videos showing how it all works. Features a few well known people, like Nicole Livingstone and Barry Hall.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby JV911 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:31 pm

So will Bertie be riding la vuelta now his hearing has been postponed again???
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby AUbicycles » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:30 pm

Can't see why he wouldn't be eligible... but would he still have the legs?
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby jules21 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:33 pm

he's already ruled it out, i read somewhere recently.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Chuck » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:38 pm

Weren't there arguments floated on here that clenbuterol wouldn't assist cyclists during AC's case ??

Someone should have told this guy....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/clinger ... infraction
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