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big dummy technique
Postby mekore » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:01 am
i'm sure special attention have to be paid on turning and braking, especially i'm planning to carry a passengger
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby Milar » Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:52 am
Like the Kona Ute, but bigger I think. No idea how different they would be to ride, maybe ask some tandem riders what it's like to ride solo?
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby Aushiker » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:38 am
Probably one of these ...Comedian wrote:No idea what one is?
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby Mugglechops » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:26 pm
Don't try and do wheelies I would say just take it easy and get used to it first. After awhile you probably wont even notice the extra length.mekore wrote:i'm buying one, any tips on riding technique?
i'm sure special attention have to be paid on turning and braking, especially i'm planning to carry a passengger
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby scrubnbash » Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:26 pm
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby robflyte » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:05 pm
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby find_bruce » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:08 pm
I didn't notice the extra length in a tandem - it handled like a regular bike - except when clearing humps in the road, like those very small speed humps. You are right about braking though - anticipation will be the name of your game. Good to have disc brakes
Given that the whole purpose of a big dummy is to haul cargo, I suspect you will notice the width, the wieght and the balance, especially if the weight distribution is up high or out wide.
The bikes seem pretty popular at the Cargo Bike forum on MTBR.
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby Marto » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:34 pm
This is a Yuba Mundo, but it is similar:find_bruce wrote: Given that the whole purpose of a big dummy is to haul cargo...
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:13 am
Other one (blue with people) does have rake.
(Rake - the offset of the front wheel axle to the axis of the forks.)
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby mekore » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:51 am
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby HappyHumber » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:04 am
Jack knifing would only be an issue if you're articulated (i.e. towing a trailer), surely?mekore wrote:what about jacknifing, like driving a long truck?
how about more zippier little numbers cutting in front of you to beat you to the lights?
You'll need a sticker made up for your bags or box on the back "Only Idiots cut in Front of Big Dummies"
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby rkelsen » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:22 am
Col, you're right in saying that it has straight forks... but if you hold a small ruler up to your screen - in line with the headtube - you will see that the fork blades are angled forward enough to give the bike enough rake to have a good amount of positive trail. Trail is what keep the bike pointing straight ahead.ColinOldnCranky wrote:The one shown at the top seems to have almost no rake from what I can see.
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby Aushiker » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:45 am
The head tube angle is quoted as being 72 degrees. Given Surly's experience I would suggest, as you imply, that Surly would have a clue about getting it right.rkelsen wrote:Col, you're right in saying that it has straight forks... but if you hold a small ruler up to your screen - in line with the headtube - you will see that the fork blades are angled forward enough to give the bike enough rake to have a good amount of positive trail. Trail is what keep the bike pointing straight ahead.ColinOldnCranky wrote:The one shown at the top seems to have almost no rake from what I can see.
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby Marto » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:30 pm
I was looking for a video I saw of the Yuba Mondo, from the above photo URL, and noticed that there is a guy in the photo sitting on the ground as if he has been dumped. I cant blame the Yuba Mondo owner, reallyMarto wrote:This is a Yuba Mundo, but it is similar:find_bruce wrote: Given that the whole purpose of a big dummy is to haul cargo...
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby il padrone » Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:08 pm
And this guy rode one from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, with those huge Endomorph 3.7" tyres.robflyte wrote:no special technique, just ride and enjoy. Those fat tyres make for a smooth ride.
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby drubie » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:45 am
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby g3rg » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:03 am
The few things I've noticed:
Don't try to race up hill. On the flat it is fine, and it loves downhills. If you can find a gradual sloping road with no traffic, it can be a fun bike to 'carve' turns across the slope. But as soon as you hit an uphill, you'll notice the extra weight, even unloaded.
Always load your cargo on the side that has the kickstand first. Otherwise its very embarrassing at the shops when your fruit tries to run away from you as your bike tips over.
Get used to some interesting looks and questions from people
As for riding technique, the basic mechanical disc brakes work quite well on my bike, you won't get up to a high speed to worry too much.
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Re: big dummy technique
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby mekore » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:40 am
i ocassionally buy tram cards for portgaging duties, and felt uncomfortable being full on wayback from pizza house--> always wish to bring a quarter of large pizza home instead of chucking it into my mouth....
i bet this bike will bring a lot of ease and joy. i hope i'll get it this september
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby il padrone » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:29 pm
You don't need the Big Dummy for that jobmekore wrote: always wish to bring a quarter of large pizza home instead of chucking it into my mouth....
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby landscapecadmonkey » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:39 pm
Big Dummy+Titec J Bars+BRooks saddle = falling in love all over again !!!!
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Re: big dummy technique
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Re: big dummy technique
Postby HappyHumber » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:54 pm
They're getting somewhat of a niche spike in popularity amongst the whole monstercross/fatbike/gravelgrinder/bikepacking scene. Niche within a niche sorta thing. I'm sure there'll be plenty of opinions awaiting you
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Re: big dummy technique
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