Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

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Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby cyc715t » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:50 pm

Hi, how are we all? I was looking through some old parts of mine and came across these. I tried doing some research on the net but I always tend to be able to find things when I'm not looking for them and when I want to find the info, I never can! I'm bad with words!

Does anyone please know the hierarchy from best to worst out of:
*Exage Motion A250
*Exage 300EX A300
*Exage 500EX A500
*Sport LX A452

Thanking you kindly. :)

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:06 pm

500EX is better than 300EX, and 300EX is better than Exage. In addition to Exage Motion there was also Exage Sport and Exage Country, i don't know what order they go in. As to what was above those (Dura Ace was shimanos top gear then as it is now) i don't know.
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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:07 pm

Oh and i think there might be such a thing as 700EX but i'm not sure.
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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby cyc715t » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:14 pm

Ok thanks for that. Does anyone know which would be better out of the Sport LX and Exage Motion please?

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby rkelsen » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:21 am

They go in order of the "A" number, so your list would go:

Exage 500EX A500
Sport LX A452
Exage 300EX A300
Exage Motion A250

Higher than A5xx, we have:

7xxx = Dura Ace
6xxx = Ultegra/600
5xxx or 105x = 105

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby ldrcycles » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:25 am

Thanks for that link rkelsen, 400EX is the one i was thinking of, not 700. I knew there were 3 levels of EX.
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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby cyc715t » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:29 pm

Thank you.. I was looking through some more old parts and came across these too..
70gs
200gs
Exage Trail

I can't seem to find much on the 70gs on google..

Would 200gs be better than 70gs?

How good is Exage Trail please?

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby LG » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:25 pm

With the MTB stuff there were 3 levels of Exage at one stage. IIRC, from highest to lowest, Exage Mountain, Exage Country & Exage Trail.
LG = Low Gear

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby cyc715t » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:29 pm

thank u LG for clearing that up for me.. how about 70gs and 200gs please? Are they any good?

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby rkelsen » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:24 am

cyc715t wrote:Thank you.. I was looking through some more old parts and came across these too..
70gs
200gs
Exage Trail

I can't seem to find much on the 70gs on google..

Would 200gs be better than 70gs?

How good is Exage Trail please?
Are you able to locate any numbers on the parts?

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby ldrcycles » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:29 pm

I've seen 200GS and Exage Trail, just from looking at them it seemed pretty apparent the Exage Trail was much better quality, the 200GS was quite clunky and solid looking.
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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby cyc715t » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:31 pm

Is the Exage Trail a 6 speed or 7 speed rear derailleur please?

I think the part number of the 70GS is FC-T770... I couldn't really tell because it was hard to get to and it was dark (lazy of me I know!). Is that right or have I read it wrong in dim light please?

Is that any good?

My next question is.. can a Deore LX 7 Speed rear derailleur be used with a standard Shimano 7 Speed Shifter (the ones which are attached to the V-Brake Shimano levers? ST-EE28

Finally.. I found this Learsport BW-3000 frame chucked out and thought it would be a nice bike to do up and ride around but it has a few issues. The rear derailleur was brokem (hence my Deore LX question)... and the chain rings are bent.

Would Deore LX chainrings and cranks work with the standard ST-EE28 shifters please? I am missing the Deore LX front derailleur and front derailleur shifter hence I'm trying to mix and match!

The other issue with this learsport BW-3000 is that I can't seem to get a rear rim to fit in the frame! I tried sticking a standard 26 inch rim in there and the axle/hub/spacing width etc seems to be too wide for the frame. The distance between the two dropouts seems to be very narrow. The frame doesn't look squashed! Does anyone know if the BW-3000 was made for narrower rims/axle area etc please??

It is the same model as this one:
http://imageshack.us/f/577/ebay05.jpg/

Sorry about all the questions!

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby KayR » Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:48 am

Hi, I came across this thread while searching for info about parts for my son's bike which he crashed recently. He damaged the crank set on his old (?80s/90s) but nice-to-ride Raleigh road bike. We have found a possible replacement part to buy - the original is a Shimano Exage Motion Biopace and it is marked FC-A300. The part we have found is marked FC-A250 - it looks the same and the other numbers work (170 crank length, 52-40 chain wheels); is there any significance in the difference between A250 and A300? I am quite ignorant about bikes but have found someone good to fix it! Reading this thread makes me think the A250 is just the "bottom of the range" version of what the bike originally had but I would love an opinion from someone who is familiar with these things. The bike is old but we would quite like to get an original-ish part if we can. He really enjoys riding his bike and will be back in the saddle once his broken elbow mends!

I would be incredibly grateful if anyone could help. Thanks.

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby pete-star » Mon May 30, 2022 6:51 pm

ldrcycles wrote:
Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:06 pm
500EX is better than 300EX, and 300EX is better than Exage. In addition to Exage Motion there was also Exage Sport and Exage Country, i don't know what order they go in. As to what was above those (Dura Ace was shimanos top gear then as it is now) i don't know.
Exage in the 80's were different to Exage in the 90's.. here are the mtb versions;

1987-1988: Deore XT, Deore, Exage Mountain, Exage Trail, Exage Country
1989: Deore XT II, Deore II, Mountain LX
1990-1991: Deore XT, Deore DX, Deore LX, 500LX, 400LX, 300LX, 200GS
1992: XTRace (XTR), Deore XT, Deore DX, Deore LX, 500LX, 400LX, 300LX, 200GS
1993: XTR, Deore XT, Deore LX, Exage EX, Exage LT,

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby Andy01 » Tue May 31, 2022 9:34 am

Impressive thread revival after 11 years :D

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Re: Shimano Hierachy? Exage Motion, 300EX, 500EX, Sport LX

Postby ldrcycles » Tue May 31, 2022 11:13 am

Andy01 wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 9:34 am
Impressive thread revival after 11 years :D
More detail is always a good thing :)

There's some good info relating to Exage Shimano posted on their own website as part of their 100th anniversary in 2021- https://www.shimano.com/en/100th/histor ... .php?id=40
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