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Postby Welsh Dragon » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:06 pm

Hi Ladies,

Now I now we are all different but is there anyone out there who could start to point me in the right direction of a good brand of saddle/seat ? I've tried the one my bike came with and 4 different pro-logo ones and am at my wits ends !

Am thinking specialised have a good range and might move onto them next but any suggestions would be appreciated!
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Mulger bill » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:47 pm

There's no one good saddle brand. It basically boils down to what makes your bum happy. That may or may not be a womens specific item.

Two well regarded makers of womens saddles are Terry and Brooks, I'm sure there's more out there.

Good luck with finding the right perch.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby grasshopper » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:57 am

Yes saddles are individual, but after four (or five?) saddles I'd be looking at your bike fit as well. A useful article by Steve Hogg mentions some common issues (and likely saddle brands). Some women do like Brooks but there's not the same level of devotion as by guys and there's a weight penalty with most of them (and price penalty if they don't suit).

There's a fair bit of love for Selle Italia gel flow, and I know a few race bikes wearing San Marco Aspide (various models).
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Nobody » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:41 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:Hi Ladies,

Now I now we are all different but is there anyone out there who could start to point me in the right direction of a good brand of saddle/seat ? I've tried the one my bike came with and 4 different pro-logo ones and am at my wits ends !

Am thinking specialised have a good range and might move onto them next but any suggestions would be appreciated!
If you really want comfort, then try a tensioned leather saddle appropriate to your purpose.
Eg:
Brooks (not the cheapest place to buy though)
Selle An-Atomica
VO

If for some strange reason you have a phobia to leather (some do) then I've heard that Selle SMP are liked by some.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby duds2u » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:31 am

Try going to a Specialized dealer and get your sit bone width measured. It's all very discrete as you only sit on a special cushion.
This will give you a good start knowing what width saddle you require.

By the way the Specialized saddles aren't too bad either. I've done a lot of K's on mine since April and me and my bum and saddle are all happy and still the best of friends.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Welsh Dragon » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:55 am

It's not my bum that's getting sore !!!!!!!!!
I think I sit too far forward also so been working on that too !
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby bianchi928 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:56 am

duds2u wrote:Try going to a Specialized dealer and get your sit bone width measured. It's all very discrete as you only sit on a special cushion.
This will give you a good start knowing what width saddle you require.

By the way the Specialized saddles aren't too bad either. I've done a lot of K's on mine since April and me and my bum and saddle are all happy and still the best of friends.


Hi,

My wife and friend (female) both use specialized saddles and have had no issues at all. They did measure their sit bones and got the specific width.

I called into Wembley cycles last week (dropping the coffee machine of to get fixed next door :( ) and I am pretty certain they had a range of specialized saddles to measure.maybe try. Give them a bell.

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Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Kenzo » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:05 pm

My wife did not like the Fizik Arione, nor did she like the Selle Italia XO (neither had a cutout).
Just ordered a "Terry Womens' Butterfly Ti Gel" saddle for my wife as she specifically wanted a saddle with a cutout.
Reviews looked like this will do the job nicely.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Nobody » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:08 pm

Welsh Dragon wrote:It's not my bum that's getting sore !!!!!!!!!
I think I sit too far forward also so been working on that too !
Saddle angle? It should be flat to start with, then try adjusting small amounts of angle from there.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby grasshopper » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:09 pm

Welsh Dragon wrote:It's not my bum that's getting sore !!!!!!!!!

It rarely is.
Welsh Dragon wrote:I think I sit too far forward also so been working on that too !

Symptomatic of bike fit - feel stretched to the bars? And check whether your saddle is level (tilted down and you'll slide forward). Tiny changes in angle can make a big difference.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Parker » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:10 pm

Welsh Dragon wrote:It's not my bum that's getting sore !!!!!!!!!
I think I sit too far forward also so been working on that too !

I use a Selle Italia and I've had no problems. And I'm female BTW. It sometimes takes a few saddles, make sure your knicks are good quality.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby marinmomma » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:58 pm

I have a Specialized Jett saddle and love it...my hubby and another couple that we ride with have their saddles on our bikes, only one of us has a Specialized bike.

Getting your bike fit checked as well as investing in good quaility knicks would be advised...get the bike fit checked first before laying down $$ for another saddle.

Good luck!
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby wombatK » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:30 pm

Welsh Dragon wrote:It's not my bum that's getting sore !!!!!!!!!
I think I sit too far forward also so been working on that too !

Steve Hogg has written an article on women's Sensitive Issues that you might find useful.

+1 on getting your sit bones measured. There's various ways of measuring it yourself (e.g. by indentations in a rice-bag or hot/cold gel ice-pack). Best way might be to find an LBS that has a Specialized Ass-o-meter that can measure you up, and recommend the right size saddle. Specialized saddles aint cheap, so make any purchase conditional on it being a satisfactory fit (money-back if it isn't etc.,.).

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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby womenwhocycle.com » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:20 pm

Hi

I've recently tested a Fizik Vesta saddle for my blog http://womenwhocycle.com

I'll post a review shortly but I've found it really comfortable and it looks good too. Some bike shops like the Clarence Street Cyclery women's store in Sydney's CBD have a test saddle of the Fizik Vesta which you can borrow before you commit. I also know that Specialized dealers usually load test saddles as well. It's a great idea to test it before you commit.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Welsh Dragon » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:31 pm

Thanks all. My LBS is amazing and has a buy before you try scheme.
I wear 2XU shorts which are good quality.
The bike is pretty new and has been set up well so I don't think its the bike set up. Maybe there might be a few things to tweak-well check with LBS.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Nobody » Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:54 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:My LBS is amazing and has a buy before you try scheme.
Yeah, nearly all are like that. :P

It's good if they have a try before you buy scheme. It shows some confidence in their products. Still, there is a reasonable chance they won't stock your best-fit saddle, regardless of what they stock. Also tensioned leather saddles like Brooks won't have a try before you buy scheme, as it often takes some time for the saddle to fit you by breaking in.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby simonn » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:21 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:It's not my bum that's getting sore !!!!!!!!!
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The bike is pretty new and has been set up well so I don't think its the bike set up. Maybe there might be a few things to tweak-well check with LBS.


Herein lies the problem.

My wife had similar. She has a good saddle (female Selle Italia Gel Flow) but no joy. Had a proper bike fit and all good. Needed a much shorter stem and the seat post to be lowered (quite significantly to my surprise - shows what I know :roll: :lol:).
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Schmenz » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:01 am

i had a fizik vesta and i didnt mind it until i was on the flats for too long and leaning forward - id then get numbness at the front.

i got a bike fit done and tried the selle italia gel flow lady and the SMP - i didnt like the ridges of the smp going all the way to the back - although u may get used to this so got the gel flow. now im not a big fan. no numbness, but my ass gets REALLY sore after about 60kms. (i also wear the 2xu shorts). i dont think it is wide enough for me.

where are you based? i could lend you one of mine to try.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Welsh Dragon » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:55 pm

Thanks Schmenz-I'm in Perth.

I'm looking at specialised at the moment.

Schmenz wrote:i had a fizik vesta and i didnt mind it until i was on the flats for too long and leaning forward - id then get numbness at the front.

i got a bike fit done and tried the selle italia gel flow lady and the SMP - i didnt like the ridges of the smp going all the way to the back - although u may get used to this so got the gel flow. now im not a big fan. no numbness, but my ass gets REALLY sore after about 60kms. (i also wear the 2xu shorts). i dont think it is wide enough for me.

where are you based? i could lend you one of mine to try.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Schmenz » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:13 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:Thanks Schmenz-I'm in Perth.

I'm looking at specialised at the moment.

Schmenz wrote:i had a fizik vesta and i didnt mind it until i was on the flats for too long and leaning forward - id then get numbness at the front.

i got a bike fit done and tried the selle italia gel flow lady and the SMP - i didnt like the ridges of the smp going all the way to the back - although u may get used to this so got the gel flow. now im not a big fan. no numbness, but my ass gets REALLY sore after about 60kms. (i also wear the 2xu shorts). i dont think it is wide enough for me.

where are you based? i could lend you one of mine to try.



hahah after this i have decided i dont like the new selle italia and went back to the fizik! one gives numbness, the other a really painfully sore ass.

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Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Kenzo » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:19 pm

Fitted the Terry Butterfly Ti to my wife's bike last night. Today she rode it for about 90 mins and loved it... Can't wait to go for another ride.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby giwi2 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:05 pm

Garland Cycles in South Perth have a load of Specialized test saddles if that helps.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby notwal » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:39 am

Was browsing Steve Hogg's site recently and he makes the point that from a seat's point of view a female bum is much the same as a male bum. You may jump to the conclusion that he cites this as evidence that one shouldn't take advice from a seat but no, he agrees with it.
He gives lots of props to SMP saddles.
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Re: Please help me with a saddle !

Postby clackers » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:22 pm

AFAIK the sit bones are closer together on males, though ...
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Please help me with a saddle !

Postby Dr_Mutley » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:34 pm

Some men have narrower sit bones, some women have wider... Worst thing u can do is generalize... Measure ur sit bones then u will know... Those wide as, over gelafied saddles designed for "women" are just derogatory to most who ride...

If u don't have much luck with saddles, go back to the most comfortable, set it up dead level, and drop ur seatpost 2cm, and see if it's anymore comfortable.

Alot of "good bike fits" will leave u with a too high a saddle position. The resultant rock of the pelvis with every pedal stroke will make ANY saddle uncomfortable.

I have 2 saddles I like. Specialized Romin, and the fizik arione. Very different saddles, but either I can do 10hrs on. Recently I experimented with my post 1cm higher to measure any power differences. Power was about the same but I soon got VERY saddle sore after 90mins. Same saddle, just 10mm higher.

Get someone to ride behind u when ur pushing at about 60 to 70% of max... If yr hips are moving up and down with each pedal stroke (poor pelvic stability) then chances are that saddle height is playing a role.

Just remember, saddle comfort isn't just about the saddle ;-)
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