Anyone ride a fatbike.
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Anyone ride a fatbike.
Postby saronmcm1 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:04 pm
I am after any info on Fatbikes such as Pugsley or Mukluk and your experiences with this type of bike.
I intend on buying a fatbike for touring offroad and Mtbing around Perth Hills and coastal areas.
If anyone has built a fatbike from a conventional Hardtail or FS MTB can you please provide details.
Thanks
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Re: Anyone ride a fatbike.
Postby trailgumby » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:06 pm
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Re: Anyone ride a fatbike.
Postby Xplora » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:19 pm
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Re: Anyone ride a fatbike.
Postby Mugglechops » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:01 pm
Would be great for riding along the beach with.
Not sure about riding in the water though.
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Postby Xplora » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:24 pm
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Postby trailgumby » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:47 pm
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Postby Xplora » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:22 pm
That's why God invented the tap to produce another invention, fresh water I think the assault on the bike would be worth the fun of flogging a Moonlander down Stockton Beach for a weektrailgumby wrote:Salt water + (any metal <> stainless steel) =
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Postby Nobody » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:10 pm
You could always spray WD40/RP7/Lanoguard/Inox/Lanox or similar on all non-brake parts you think need protection from corrosion/electrolysis.trailgumby wrote:Salt water + (any metal <> stainless steel) =
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Postby DarrylH » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:21 pm
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Postby Xplora » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:42 pm
I do accept that it would be advisable to have a completely separate groupset for dedicated beachriding, or better yet, have a second bike that isn't going to go through the sand, but I still reckon this would be fun. I'm actually toying with the idea of getting a fatbike for my second bike to go with my Kona road bike. It's a completely different ride, I reckon it would be lots of fun, and would be good to ride with the kids when they are old enough to get on a BMX, with the super low gears.
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Postby Nobody » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:12 pm
You could always try wax.DarrylH wrote:And then worry about the fine sand that gets through everything. Rode in a bit of soft sand near Yeppoon and realised quickly how much of it gets thown up into the chain etc. Luckily it was my old beater.
http://www.ecovelo.info/2011/10/10/chain-waxing-101/
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Postby mitzikatzi » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:58 pm
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Postby trailgumby » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:43 am
Even with copious quantities of fresh water and/or oil-based protectants, you're still gonna destroy your bike in short order from corrosion.
Just seeing what salt air used to do to our powder coated alloy window frames and sliding doors that were supposedly warranted against corrosion when we lived at Dee Why was an eye-opener.
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Postby Nobody » Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:15 pm
As for paint, you're not going to be able to paint the inside of the frame easy, so you'd want to seal the seatpost with grease pretty well and drill a hole in the BB shell. My Surly CC came with a hole in the BB and I drilled one in my MTB. You'd probably need to pay a fair amount of attention to the headset area too.trailgumby wrote:You'd think a good coat of paint would offer protection too.
Even with copious quantities of fresh water and/or oil-based protectants, you're still gonna destroy your bike in short order from corrosion.
Just seeing what salt air used to do to our powder coated alloy window frames and sliding doors that were supposedly warranted against corrosion when we lived at Dee Why was an eye-opener.
You may be able to use a sacrificial anode if your bike gets wet enough on the beach. May not work in dryer conditions.
Chances are though that the people that have the extra funds to ride a fat bike on the beach also have available funds similar to you (and most people here) for bikes and therefore it won't matter too much if they need to replace a frameset every 5 years or so.
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Postby Xplora » Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:56 pm
If I bought a new car, I'd have just as easily bought half a dozen Moonlanders and gone riding with friends
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Re: Anyone ride a fatbike.
Postby h3ndry » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:47 pm
But I don't think they're suspension corrected unfortunately
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Re: Anyone ride a fatbike.
Postby gcouyant » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:49 pm
Saronmcm I have a Mukluk built relatively light weight and can help you if you have specific questions.saronmcm1 wrote:Hi,
I am after any info on Fatbikes such as Pugsley or Mukluk and your experiences with this type of bike.
I intend on buying a fatbike for touring offroad and Mtbing around Perth Hills and coastal areas.
If anyone has built a fatbike from a conventional Hardtail or FS MTB can you please provide details.
Thanks
The Mukluk is an alloy frame and is symmetrical but being 6061 alloy, it's a bit stiff - certainly stiffer than the Pugsley steel. I couldn't do a Pugsley's asymmetry though.
A relaxing touring bike because you can take your eye off the track ahead to look around without having to worry about the track surface irregularities that do upset a 26" or 29" regular MTB. Converting to tubeless is a must though if you're heading anywhere with thorns. It climbs well and rolls well on the flat. Takes six or seven good prods on the pedals to get it up to speed - unlike a regular hard tail that needs two or three. Once rolling though it's pretty good at maintaining speed. A bit of a handful in the rough because the bike wants to pogo about and once bouncing it'll go wherever it wants to. Can be scary around a fast bend.
You'll have to learn to corner again because of the substantial change in turn radius as you lean the bike but after a bit it feels completely natural. Hard to go back to a normal bike again though. You'll be falling into turns.
The hardest thing about riding a fat bike is that everybody and I do mean everybody will want to stop you and chat or comment on the bike. If you're in for the ride or using it for training then the constant interruption is a hassle.
It's a bike that will beg you to ride coastal tracks and to ride long distances. I think that the area from Perth down along the cape(s) will be sensational on a fatty. The sandy trails near the caves is just drop dead fantastic on fat.
Wax based lubricants are best in sand and don't worry about rust. Just keep a light film of Bel-ray grease on the head stem - the fork is steel. Heaps of braze on fittings for just about anything you want to bolt onto the frame for touring.
The only problem I have is that I enjoy riding the fat bike more than my other mountain bikes and I'm slowly losing my technical abilities and confidence when tackling tough tracks. It's also a hoot to get out on the road, mix it with the road cyclists and listen to that glorious tyre roar when you get it going fast. It's also pretty cool with that fat front tyre always in your preripheral vision.....
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Postby munga » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:16 pm
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Re: Anyone ride a fatbike.
Postby Mugglechops » Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:22 pm
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Postby gcouyant » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:04 am
It's a special purpose bike.Mugglechops wrote:I wouldn't say novelty bike.
We (fat bikes) took out most of the top placings in this year's Simpson Desert challenge.
Hey Mugglechops, how good are those fork mounts for biddons!
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Re: Anyone ride a fatbike.
Postby Mugglechops » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:34 am
I would have liked a fat bike when I attempted the Simpson Challenge in 2000.gcouyant wrote:It's a special purpose bike.Mugglechops wrote:I wouldn't say novelty bike.
We (fat bikes) took out most of the top placings in this year's Simpson Desert challenge.
Hey Mugglechops, how good are those fork mounts for biddons!
I would like one now but I just got a 3rd bike past the wife yesterday. 4 would be pushing it a little
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Postby Mugglechops » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:43 am
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Postby gcouyant » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:56 am
That highlights an issue with fat bikes. When they land, they go THUD and it's tough on the body. Well tough on this weary old body at least.Mugglechops wrote:Just found another use for fatbikes courtesy of Rotorburn.
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Postby gcouyant » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:01 am
Oh I assumed that one was yours.... If you got a 3rd bike past the wife then there's hope for four bikes. There you go, challenge is out there on you.Mugglechops wrote:I would like one now but I just got a 3rd bike past the wife yesterday. 4 would be pushing it a little
You know, they aren't that expensive. I purchased the frame, light weight rims, hubs and crankset - which are all special on a Mukluk's symmetrical frame. The rest was parts I had buried away in the parts drawers at the factory.
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