Before and After Pics by all restorers
-
- Posts: 15
- Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:47 am
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: BEFORE AND AFTER PICS BY ALL RESTORERS
Postby mark field » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:35 am
- old al
- Posts: 307
- Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:42 pm
- Location: Pelaw Main Hunter Valley NSW
Re: BEFORE AND AFTER PICS BY ALL RESTORERS
Postby old al » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:26 pm
Al.
- elStado
- Posts: 2363
- Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:27 am
- Location: Syd, NSW
Re: BEFORE AND AFTER PICS BY ALL RESTORERS
Postby elStado » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:14 pm
Seat looks pretty high.old al wrote:As I said in another post not one for the purists and still a work in progress. Here is the Europa before and after so far.
Cables are a bit messy - colour OK as it matches the decal.
Not a massive fan of the red chainrings.
Looks pretty damn sweet otherwise. How much does it weigh do you know?
- old al
- Posts: 307
- Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:42 pm
- Location: Pelaw Main Hunter Valley NSW
Re: BEFORE AND AFTER PICS BY ALL RESTORERS
Postby old al » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:27 pm
Weight is 9.6kg. Kept with the original colours of red and yellow. Red chainrings match the red Rino derailleur which is still under repair.elStado wrote:Seat looks pretty high.old al wrote:As I said in another post not one for the purists and still a work in progress. Here is the Europa before and after so far.
Cables are a bit messy - colour OK as it matches the decal.
Not a massive fan of the red chainrings.
Looks pretty damn sweet otherwise. How much does it weigh do you know?
Seat height is correct for me and the seat handlebar relationship is spot on for racing. The drops are a bit low with the old fashioned deep drops but I kept them to keep the bike a bit in character for it's era. It is actually a shorter reach to the hoods than my racing bike.
Al.
- ldrcycles
- Posts: 9594
- Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:19 pm
- Location: Kin Kin, Queensland
Re: BEFORE AND AFTER PICS BY ALL RESTORERS
Postby ldrcycles » Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:17 pm
DROOOLS So shiny! Looks great to me.old al wrote:As I said in another post not one for the purists and still a work in progress. Here is the Europa before and after so far.
Al.
- Mulger bill
- Super Mod
- Posts: 29060
- Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:41 pm
- Location: Sunbury Vic
Re: BEFORE AND AFTER PICS BY ALL RESTORERS
Postby Mulger bill » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:44 pm
Everything else is sweeeet.
London Boy 29/12/2011
- old al
- Posts: 307
- Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:42 pm
- Location: Pelaw Main Hunter Valley NSW
Re: BEFORE AND AFTER PICS BY ALL RESTORERS
Postby old al » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:35 pm
I agree. I left the cables long as I am waiting for a new set of black calipers that are a bit longer than the Shimano's that are on the bike now. I had to turn the brake shoes upside down to get them to contact the rim and not the tyre.Mulger bill wrote:If I was gonna be picky, I'd say that rear brake cable needs shortening to reduce friction by removing that reverse curve at the seat cluster.
Everything else is sweeeet.
As I said, still a work in progress. The original brakes were really rusted out and I did not trust my restoration skills (I don't have any) to make them work.
Al.
- BillP
- Posts: 25
- Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:56 am
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby BillP » Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:23 pm
1983 "Before"
"During"
"After" After Around the Bay yesterday actually. Bill P
- Velo13
- Posts: 898
- Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:24 pm
- Location: Lennox
-
- Posts: 859
- Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 8:53 pm
- Location: Southern Downs Qld
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby morini » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:02 pm
How many lives do they have?
Chris
- vaeske
- Posts: 1013
- Joined: Thu May 05, 2011 9:22 am
- Location: Brisbane
- Contact:
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby vaeske » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:39 am
- elStado
- Posts: 2363
- Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:27 am
- Location: Syd, NSW
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby elStado » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:23 am
Agreed. Materials like carbon fibre as a greater reflection of our 'throw-away' lifestyle where things are not made to last. People knowingly sacrifice durability and longevity in order to have something that is lighter and prettier. I mean, can anyone imagine bringing a 25 year old beater carbon bike back from the dead like what Bill managed with his bike?vaeske wrote:wow, that Europa looksB very very cool indeed and Bill P, nice job man! great to see so many faces of your steed. That's why you can never do something similar to a carbon bike! The beauty of having vintage steel!
- BillP
- Posts: 25
- Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:56 am
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby BillP » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:49 am
The internet and Bike forums are invaluable to keeping older bikes on the road. This refurb contain parts sourced directly from Belgium, Cypress, US, UK, Japan, and Aus. Couldn't have done that 20 years ago. Thanks for the kind words. Bill P
- HappyHumber
- Posts: 5072
- Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:48 pm
- Location: Perth, (S.o.R.) W.A.
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby HappyHumber » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:26 am
Bill P... I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one who'd love to see a bit of a build list to ID some of the components you've reused and sourced for the reno.. I'm guessing there's a lot of Nitto stuff on it, maybe some Velo-Orange repro stuff? What exactly is the crankset & drivetrain is made up of?BillP wrote:The internet and Bike forums are invaluable to keeping older bikes on the road. This refurb contain parts sourced directly from Belgium, Cypress, US, UK, Japan, and Aus. Couldn't have done that 20 years ago. Thanks for the kind words. Bill P
Hit me up via the BNA dm; I'll get an alert. If y'know, you know.
-
- Posts: 1151
- Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:15 pm
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby lunar_c » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:28 am
Like Kym, I'd love to know more about your rando! Specs .. and the story behind it!
- WyvernRH
- Posts: 3190
- Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:41 pm
- Location: Newcastle NSW
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby WyvernRH » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:41 pm
So, (just asking) is 'Randonneur' the new term for what I would call a touring bike? Over the last few years I have had my Swallow touring bike described as a 'Cross bike', 'All terrain', 'cyclo-cross', 'commuter' when what it is is a fully kitted out 700c wheeled heavy tourer? The term Randonneuring tends to be used to describe Audax events and 'Audax' when applied to a bike describes something a bit sporty these days, seeing the old rules about mudguards etc got discarded.lunar_c wrote:BillP .. remember me? I sold you some clamp-on cable stops on eBay and emailed you after to see what you were building and it was the beautiful randoneur you just showed us
Like Kym, I'd love to know more about your rando! Specs .. and the story behind it!
I know however that Jan Heine seems to have started a fashion for French style large handlebags with high front carrier in the USA Audax events along with very wide tyres and the French style alloy mudguards.
Cheers
Richard
-
- Posts: 1151
- Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:15 pm
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby lunar_c » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:36 pm
I'm by no means an expert on cycling terminology .. but I always took "randoneur" to mean sort of light touring bike somewhere between a racing bike and a loaded tourer, so I guess in that respect I've actually just proved myself wrong Oops..
- BillP
- Posts: 25
- Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:56 am
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby BillP » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:29 pm
Hey Ben Thanks for the clamp- works a treat!
The bike is a 1981 Japanese version of the 1950's French touring bicycle.
Richard, read this a few times : http://translate.google.com.au/translat ... rmd%3Divns
I'm grateful to the Americans for their current fad with more sensible bikes such as 650B & randonneur- parts availability is very good now.
Cheers Bill P
-
- Posts: 1151
- Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:15 pm
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby lunar_c » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:15 pm
- elStado
- Posts: 2363
- Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:27 am
- Location: Syd, NSW
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby elStado » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:17 pm
The paint job looks awesome in that last picture - what colour is it? Looks like a metallic cherry red or something - surely not a cheap powdercoat job? ED: Just noticed in your works table you detailed the paint job. How much did that set you back?
- HappyHumber
- Posts: 5072
- Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:48 pm
- Location: Perth, (S.o.R.) W.A.
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby HappyHumber » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:29 pm
Thanks for sharing!BillP wrote:Hi Kym, Here is my rough worksheet for the rebuild..
Who's the supplier "BQ" you list amongst the first few items?
Did you originally plan to drill & tap the stem to mount the bell? I see reference to then filling the hole
I know you've already posted this bike in another thread - but it's such a beauty it almost deserves it's own discussion for all of our inane questions taking over this thread
Hit me up via the BNA dm; I'll get an alert. If y'know, you know.
- BillP
- Posts: 25
- Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:56 am
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby BillP » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:02 pm
The paint was $74 for a small tin- Its Cobra auto paint, metallic cherry red.
Maybe I should get off here & onto another post, happy to talk at length re bikes, I dont want to hog. Bill P
- elStado
- Posts: 2363
- Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:27 am
- Location: Syd, NSW
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby elStado » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:04 pm
Yes for guessing the paint colour!BillP wrote:The paint was $74 for a small tin- Its Cobra auto paint, metallic cherry red.
Looks like a perfect touring/commuting bike.
- BillP
- Posts: 25
- Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:56 am
Re: Before and After Pics by all restorers
Postby BillP » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:15 pm
Well guessed elStado, but you lose all your points for dissin' the worlds best tyres! Bill PYes for guessing the paint colour!
- General Australian Cycling Topics
- Info / announcements
- Buying a bike / parts
- General Cycling Discussion
- The Bike Shed
- Cycling Health
- Cycling Safety and Advocacy
- Women's Cycling
- Bike & Gear Reviews
- Cycling Trade
- Stolen Bikes
- Bicycle FAQs
- The Market Place
- Member to Member Bike and Gear Sales
- Want to Buy, Group Buy, Swap
- My Bikes or Gear Elsewhere
- Serious Biking
- Audax / Randonneuring
- Retro biking
- Commuting
- MTB
- Recumbents
- Fixed Gear/ Single Speed
- Track
- Electric Bicycles
- Cyclocross and Gravel Grinding
- Dragsters / Lowriders / Cruisers
- Children's Bikes
- Cargo Bikes and Utility Cycling
- Road Racing
- Road Biking
- Training
- Time Trial
- Triathlon
- International and National Tours and Events
- Cycle Touring
- Touring Australia
- Touring Overseas
- Touring Bikes and Equipment
- Australia
- Western Australia
- New South Wales
- Queensland
- South Australia
- Victoria
- ACT
- Tasmania
- Northern Territory
- Country & Regional
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users
- All times are UTC+10:00
- Top
- Delete cookies
About the Australian Cycling Forums
The Australian Cycling Forums is a welcoming community where you can ask questions and talk about the type of bikes and cycling topics you like.
Bicycles Network Australia
Forum Information
Connect with BNA
This website uses affiliate links to retail platforms including ebay, amazon, proviz and ribble.