Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby mark field » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:48 am
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby lunar_c » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:55 pm
Even a layperson could surely tell the difference between an old bike from K mart (or the period equivalent) and something with ornate lugs and such quality gear on it.
Madness!
PS : restore the hell out of that bike.. and get the top tube repaired! what a find
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby austy37 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:41 pm
i think the front forks are out of alignment though, i took a bike to a shop once and they said they dont fix bent forks, i thought there was a tool that can at least realign the dropouts? i took off those rubber tires, that was hard work, but the wheels spin up a treat. i am not sure i am up for a resto. as its not really my size, bike is 55 and im more of a 54....shorter stem maybe? i live on canberra, is there anyone around who could fix that top tube? i like the cinelli bars though, they are an interesting shape.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby mark field » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:04 pm
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby koen » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:15 pm
It is not obvious in the photos but has it got an unsual seat cluster? I have a Holdsworth that looks very like this and the seat stays wrap right over the top tube.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby elStado » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:08 pm
I'd just get the box cutters out and slice it off.. you aren't going to keep the tire anyway so why bother removing it intact.WyvernRH wrote:Kicker here is they were absolute horrors to get on and especially off. I broke a couple of tyre levers getting the MTB version (yes there was one! ) off a set of wheels for a friend back in the 90's and most mechanics hated them.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby WyvernRH » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:38 am
Hmmm, could be, but the headbadge rivet holes are not in the right place for the later model badge that matches this frame's period. The frame number might be your friend here. However, lots of other makes used the 'either-side' rivets and you could use that fact to exclude some makes that used 'top-bottom' rivets (Claud Butler/Elswick) or three rivets (Raleigh). The rivet holes maybe tends to suggest it is not Australian as riveted headbadges seem rare on Oz bikes (Tho' Speedwell used a chrome 'S' for a while)koen wrote:austy7's tip bike may be a Holdsworth?? Mine is such a nice ride. It is the opposite of stiff and hard riding so I'd be getting it roadworthy again one day.
It could also be a "Put your British Framebuilder Here" as everyone used Nevex lugs including Raleigh, Dawes, Falcon, Viking and a host of other big builders including Peugeot, Motobecane, Gazelle, RIH etc on the continent. Better class Malvern Stars and other Oz marques used them too I believe.
Unless there are particular frame quirks like wrap-around stays, fork embellishments (or even a head badge!) unlabeled Nervex lugged frames are almost impossible to identify as these lugs were so commonly used.
They do not always indicate a class frame (though in this case it does look very good) as Peugeot for one used Nervex lugs with their 'own brand' unbutted tubing ( I have one) to produce a class looking frame lower in a lower price range.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby WyvernRH » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:45 am
Just above the brake cable on the headstock, running between the back of the lug point to the back/bottom of the top head lug is a black line. I'm hoping it is dirt or just a scratch but it looks like a crack .
Tell me I'm wrong ...please...
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Postby mark field » Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:13 am
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby WyvernRH » Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:52 am
Yup, you are right. Obvious now I'm looking at it on a screen with decent resolution!mark field wrote:i think your looking at the cable has worn away at the lug leaving a destinctive shape, and the "crack" is actually the lug shape. compare the shape of the line to that of the down tube lug and you will see it has the same linear curve. however at that point where the cacle has worn there does appear to be a tiny horizontal line that intersects it. assuming your looking at what i am anyway.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby bicyclepassion » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:48 pm
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Postby Tasman » Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:06 pm
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Postby mark field » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:10 am
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby ldrcycles » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:34 am
Believe it or not i actually found a mid 80s Pinarello Frame at the tip oncelunar_c wrote:I know we're bike geeks and all, but the mind still boggles as to how someone could throw such a piece of art in the rubbish..
Even a layperson could surely tell the difference between an old bike from K mart (or the period equivalent) and something with ornate lugs and such quality gear on it.
Madness!
PS : restore the hell out of that bike.. and get the top tube repaired! what a find
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby Haakon » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:47 am
Needs tyres, cables, chain, and a lotta love. A seat and clipless pedals for me. Also need to find some Suntour stem shifters from somewhere... (anyone?)
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby koen » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:39 pm
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby Haakon » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:23 pm
Just getting it going rat rod style for now
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Re: Haminex
Postby elStado » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:58 pm
Nice. Bit of a clean up and TLC and it'll be a nice old vintage cruiser for someone.amrjon wrote:Not quite as special as austy's find, but the price was right so I couldn't just drive on past.
The old lady who came out for a chat was well pleased that someone was happy to take it home.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby maccayak » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:39 pm
Repco Olympic 12
Ricardo
Geoff
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby zephy » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:03 pm
head stem badge
and the bike...
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Postby Saro28 » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:40 pm
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby ldrcycles » Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:43 pm
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds
Postby elStado » Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:18 pm
What did you use to take those pics, a potato?ldrcycles wrote:Apologies for the poor quality pics.
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