5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
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5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby The 2nd Womble » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:28 am
I want us all to isolate the 5 biggest issues and then work on solutions.
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby sogood » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:02 am
2) Opening car doors.
3) Unruly moving motor vehicles.
4) Pedestrians.
5) Fellow cyclists.
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby biftek » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:09 am
2) Fellow cyclists.
3) Pedestrians.
4) biking infrastructure
5)
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby Ozkaban » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:16 am
2. Aggressive/inattentive drivers such as the jerk bus driver this morning who wanted his lane plus half of the cycle lane I was in just for kicks.
3. Poorly designed and maintained infrastructure. Different from above, here I mean cycle lanes that disappear, pot holes, etc.
4. Inattentive/aggressive cyclists
5. Inattentive pedestrians.
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby Sam_boss260 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:34 am
2) Opening car doors.
3) Agressive / uneducated moving motor vehicles.
4) Pot holes and road debris
5)
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby CommuRider » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:55 am
2. Pedestrians
3. Dogs
4. Other cyclists
5. Poor cycling infrastructure
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby othy » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:10 pm
2. Alan Jones
3. Barry O'Farrell
4. Duncan Gay
5. People who value the opinions of the above
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby mikesbytes » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:43 pm
othy wrote:1. Daily Telegraph
2. Alan Jones
3. Barry O'Farrell
4. Duncan Gay
5. People who value the opinions of the above
I'll go with that but replace 5
1. Daily Telegraph
2. Alan Jones
3. Barry O'Farrell
4. Duncan Gay
5. Taxi's
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby Kenzo » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:49 pm
Cyclist Attitudes
Driver Education
Cyclist Education
Apparent lack of support from the enforcers of the law.
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby r2160 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:50 pm
2. Lack of driver and cyclist education and patience
3. Lack of driver and cyclist education and patience
4. Lack of driver and cyclist education and patience
5. Lack of driver and cyclist education and patience
We dont need dedicated cycling infrastructure with better driver and cyclist education and patience
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby grimbo » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:53 pm
2) Pot holes
3) opening car doors
4) lack of infrastructure, in particular usable (quiet/cycling specific) alternate routes to avoid major roads
5) couriers - worse than taxi drivers IMO
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5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby herzog » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:56 pm
Texting drivers
Texting drivers
Texting drivers
Texting drivers
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby Nobody » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:14 pm
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby Clubagreenie » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:45 pm
2. Mums around school zones in SUV's
3. belligerent riders on the psp
4. loose gravel
5. pot holes
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby sumgy » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:48 pm
Other riders who half wheel me.
Bad coffee.
Getting caught short in winter while wearing bibs (those public toilets are cold)
Getting to my bunch ride and finding another rider in exactly the same Rapha kit as me.
OK not so much safety.
More dangerous.
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby InTheWoods » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:16 pm
+1r2160 wrote:1. Lack of driver and cyclist education and patience
2. Lack of driver and cyclist education and patience
3. Lack of driver and cyclist education and patience
4. Lack of driver and cyclist education and patience
5. Lack of driver and cyclist education and patience
We dont need dedicated cycling infrastructure with better driver and cyclist education and patience
cheers
Glenn
Although, dedicated infrastructure brings out "new" cyclists who would otherwise not start up. As they get more confident, they shift more onto roads. And the more cyclists on roads, the safer we all are.
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby uncle arthur » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:02 pm
+1Ozkaban wrote:1. Almost no dedicated cycling infrastructure. Lots of (ok, some) shared road facilities, shared pedestrian facilities, but almost no *bike* facilities.
2. Aggressive/inattentive drivers such as the jerk bus driver this morning who wanted his lane plus half of the cycle lane I was in just for kicks.
3. Poorly designed and maintained infrastructure. Different from above, here I mean cycle lanes that disappear, pot holes, etc.
4. Inattentive/aggressive cyclists
5. Inattentive pedestrians.
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby KonaCommuter » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:18 pm
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:05 pm
2. Taxi drivers.
3. Bike lanes full of crap.
4. Bike lanes used for parking.
5. Arrogant drivers with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement.
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby blossy84 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:37 pm
+2uncle arthur wrote:+1Ozkaban wrote:1. Almost no dedicated cycling infrastructure. Lots of (ok, some) shared road facilities, shared pedestrian facilities, but almost no *bike* facilities.
2. Aggressive/inattentive drivers such as the jerk bus driver this morning who wanted his lane plus half of the cycle lane I was in just for kicks.
3. Poorly designed and maintained infrastructure. Different from above, here I mean cycle lanes that disappear, pot holes, etc.
4. Inattentive/aggressive cyclists
5. Inattentive pedestrians.
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby AUbicycles » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:11 am
2. Road Planning and available infrastructure (safety)
3. Driver Awareness
4. Cyclist Safe riding (other cyclists)
5. Public image of cycling
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:06 pm
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby Nobody » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:20 pm
Probably rated highly due to people using 23s and high pressure, therefore making their bikes sensitive to debris or poor road surfaces.The 2nd Womble wrote:Road and path debris is certainly a big one here. I am a little surprised but it is a good'n.
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby Xplora » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:53 pm
2. poor road surfaces (permanent - bad bitumen, uneven concrete, puddle forming depressions)
3. Poor road surfaces (temporary - glass, sticks)
4. Requirement to wear a helmet
5. Poor infrastructure and planning
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Re: 5 biggest safety issues facing BNA members
Postby martin_12 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:47 pm
2. Poor road surfaces: potholes, glass, debris, particularly in marked bike lanes.
3. Poor infrastructure and planning, particularly: bike lanes in car door zones & bike lanes that vanish at roundabouts and other places where road narrows, and highly inadequate public transport.
4. Mandatory helmet laws which reduce the number of cyclists & hence increase the danger from motor vehicle drivers.
5. Shock jocks, & Daily Telegraph and all who implicitly or explicitly incite motor vehicle drivers to be aggressive towards cyclists.
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