Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:37 am
version one.
as i foung her on ebay
version two.
my first attempt in 2010
Shogun Katana
so here we go....
braze work was less than impressive in some areas. my sanding efforts not much better either but a slight improvement.
the caps on the bb thread are milk bottle cap liners, a good tight fit to keep grit out.
and the parts are starting to arrive..... im sure ill get it wrong with some of these choices but lets see anyway. im always keen to learn via mistakes as long as they dont cost to much.
getting this in the mail will certainly jingle my bells.
other parts ive recently aquired have come from the swap meet, alloy forks from Roger, Shimano 600 SIS levers and black cinelli bars from Josh, black Easton head stem from Warren. more bits to come.
- jbchybridrider
- Posts: 281
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:06 pm
- Location: Adelaide
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby jbchybridrider » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:58 pm
- Velo13
- Posts: 898
- Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:24 pm
- Location: Lennox
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby Velo13 » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:32 pm
Remember to get evil on those levers with some Kero or other strong degreaser, just be sure it's nothing that'll pull up the paint. The Cinellis should be nice.mark field wrote:Shimano 600 SIS levers and black cinelli bars from Josh
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:08 am
Josh, ive done the kero cleanup, and they came up good, i want to use that spray on lubricant you mentioned at the swap meet but ive forgotten the name of it
im also thinking of re-doing the decals in Illustrator so i can have them vinyl cut in white, or maybe silver? problem is it didnt have any decals when i purchased the bike and im unsure of the year of manufacture. if anyone can help with that one i would appreciate it greatly. pics to come.
-
- Posts: 5131
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:41 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby rkelsen » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:23 am
- HappyHumber
- Posts: 5072
- Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:48 pm
- Location: Perth, (S.o.R.) W.A.
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby HappyHumber » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:48 pm
Hit me up via the BNA dm; I'll get an alert. If y'know, you know.
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:57 pm
then ill try to find images of Shoguns from that era as reference , thanks for that.rkelsen wrote:Mark, your Shogun frame looks very similar to a 1991 model I have. I suspect that the 0 after the letters might mean 1990.
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:03 pm
yep, the mega-multi-adjustable-multiple nuts and bolts - waiting to take my life thing has been given the boot.HappyHumber wrote:Looking forward to the fruits of your fastidiousessness, Mark.... Though please tell me you're going for a more contemporary stem this time around ?
-
- Posts: 5131
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:41 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby rkelsen » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:24 pm
I'll be offline for a week or so but if you can wait, I'll try to get it done toward the end of next week or the week after.
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:39 pm
that would be great, thanksrkelsen wrote:I can take some close-up pictures of the decals on mine if you like. It's a Katana too.
I'll be offline for a week or so but if you can wait, I'll try to get it done toward the end of next week or the week after.
- Velo13
- Posts: 898
- Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:24 pm
- Location: Lennox
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby Velo13 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:22 pm
I use a Wurth product called HHS-2000, but there is a similar product from Motorex as well. I am sure SuperCheap would have something similar. Fantastic for re-lubing STI/Ergo levers, and clusters.mark field wrote:Josh, ive done the kero cleanup, and they came up good, i want to use that spray on lubricant you mentioned at the swap meet but ive forgotten the name of it
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:58 pm
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:38 pm
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:42 am
P221111_09.55 by markfield_32, on Flickr
P221111_09.41 by markfield_32, on Flickr
P221111_09.41[01] by markfield_32, on Flickr
P221111_09.49 by markfield_32, on Flickr
P221111_09.50 by markfield_32, on Flickr
P221111_09.47[01] by markfield_32, on Flickr
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:41 pm
new front axle and cones are identical to the old ones in all respects except there is a slightly different profile on the bearing surface, so i couldnt figure out how the axle was not protruding out enough on either side after installing on the hub, it wasnt until i held the old and new cones up to the light side by side that i realised the new ones have a bees ding dong difference in the curve meaning they sit further out than the old ones. so theres $20 wasted. so far.
- munga
- Posts: 7023
- Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:17 pm
- Location: wowe
- Contact:
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby munga » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:52 pm
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:36 pm
initially i took the old ones to them and said " i need identical to this" and to the naked eye what they gave me does look identical, thinner locking nuts would be ideal, just to give me an extra 3 or 4mm protruding on either side, but they would have to be very thin as they are already pretty thin as it is. but yes, a second trip to LBS will be the go.munga wrote:if you bought them at the lbs, take them and your old ones back. maybe they can sort some correct ones for you
- vaeske
- Posts: 1013
- Joined: Thu May 05, 2011 9:22 am
- Location: Brisbane
- Contact:
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby vaeske » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:52 am
+1 yeah that adjustable stem didn't fit the bike! Good luck with the rebuild! Should be very good with Shimano 600 NOS aye!mark field wrote:yep, the mega-multi-adjustable-multiple nuts and bolts - waiting to take my life thing has been given the boot.HappyHumber wrote:Looking forward to the fruits of your fastidiousessness, Mark.... Though please tell me you're going for a more contemporary stem this time around ?
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:37 pm
Untitled by markfield_32, on Flickr
Untitled by markfield_32, on Flickr
Untitled by markfield_32, on Flickr
- vaeske
- Posts: 1013
- Joined: Thu May 05, 2011 9:22 am
- Location: Brisbane
- Contact:
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby vaeske » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:11 pm
-
- Posts: 5131
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:41 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby rkelsen » Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:32 pm
Sorry it took a while, but I've finally gotten around to taking those pics for you.
They're too big to post between 'IMG' tags, but here are the links:
Top tube: http://members.optusnet.com.au/rkelsen/ ... opped.jpeg
Down tube: http://members.optusnet.com.au/rkelsen/ ... opped.jpeg
Head tube: http://members.optusnet.com.au/rkelsen/ ... opped.jpeg
Seat tube: http://members.optusnet.com.au/rkelsen/ ... opped.jpeg - note that there is also a smaller version of this one on the forks.
You can see where they're placed on the bike in the Shogun Appreciation thread: http://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/viewt ... 23&t=21141
They weren't stuck on straight!
The other sticker which appeared on these (but had been peeled off mine by a previous owner for some reason), is the Tange Infinity logo which was placed toward the top of the seat tube.
For the record, the serial number on mine (a 1991 model) is: TB10506215.
Cheers,
Rob
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:09 pm
- mark field
- Posts: 933
- Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby mark field » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:04 pm
-
- Posts: 5131
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:41 pm
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby rkelsen » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:41 pm
If you're sure it's a Katana, then it's a safe bet that it is built from Tange Infinity. Check the seatpost diameter and it should be 26.4mm.
- BLU_FZ!
- Posts: 410
- Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:17 am
- Location: Perth?
Re: Shogun Katana re-build for the second time.
Postby BLU_FZ! » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:53 pm
- General Australian Cycling Topics
- Info / announcements
- Buying a bike / parts
- General Cycling Discussion
- The Bike Shed
- Cycling Health
- Cycling Safety and Advocacy
- Women's Cycling
- Bike & Gear Reviews
- Cycling Trade
- Stolen Bikes
- Bicycle FAQs
- The Market Place
- Member to Member Bike and Gear Sales
- Want to Buy, Group Buy, Swap
- My Bikes or Gear Elsewhere
- Serious Biking
- Audax / Randonneuring
- Retro biking
- Commuting
- MTB
- Recumbents
- Fixed Gear/ Single Speed
- Track
- Electric Bicycles
- Cyclocross and Gravel Grinding
- Dragsters / Lowriders / Cruisers
- Children's Bikes
- Cargo Bikes and Utility Cycling
- Road Racing
- Road Biking
- Training
- Time Trial
- Triathlon
- International and National Tours and Events
- Cycle Touring
- Touring Australia
- Touring Overseas
- Touring Bikes and Equipment
- Australia
- Western Australia
- New South Wales
- Queensland
- South Australia
- Victoria
- ACT
- Tasmania
- Northern Territory
- Country & Regional
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users
- All times are UTC+10:00
- Top
- Delete cookies
About the Australian Cycling Forums
The Australian Cycling Forums is a welcoming community where you can ask questions and talk about the type of bikes and cycling topics you like.
Bicycles Network Australia
Forum Information
Connect with BNA
This website uses affiliate links to retail platforms including ebay, amazon, proviz and ribble.