Cyclist run over
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Re: Cyclist run over
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:54 pm
Heaps of strength to your mate and the whole bunch Nick, here's hoping he's back in the wind quickly.
I'm off to cuddle the kids...
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Re: Cyclist run over
Postby ni78ck » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:09 pm
The driver is under investigation. The police have a warrant to search his home for medical history. He did not look like someone who should be driving under any circumstances. He was a P driver and under the influence of something.trailgumby wrote:Oh, God. I so hope your riding friend makes a full recovery. Thankfully he's alive. And my sympathies to you as well. It is very hard to deal with. Take up the counselling services, you will need them.
It would be worth investigating whether the driver knew he was a risk or had a history. It was reported in the local paper awhile back that a senior consultent to (I think) the navy knew he was a risk and didn't take his meds and either killed or seriously injured another party after having a seizure while driving. He was jailed.
My thoughts are with you and your friend.
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Re: Cyclist run over
Postby wombatK » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:20 pm
Could still be an innocent explanation - e.g. first ever diabetic or epileptic seizure. Was the driver transported to hospital ? If someone who'd suffered a seizure or blackout refused transport to hospital via ambulance (i.e. medical treatment), it might raise suspicions they are covering up some negligence on their part. With someone in a critical condition, the police have to investigate all options and hopefully will get to the bottom of it. IIRC, due to the injuries to the cyclist, the police should also be taking blood samples from the driver to test for drugs etc.,. and taking him to hospital at least for that.ni78ck wrote: The driver is under investigation. The police have a warrant to search his home for medical history. He did not look like someone who should be driving under any circumstances. He was a P driver and under the influence of something.
It's terrible to hear the cyclist is so badly injured - and it must be devastating for his family, friends and riding buddies to have this just before Xmas. Best wishes for his recovery - and if there is anything that we can do to help, let us know.
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Re: Cyclist run over
Postby London Boy » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:59 pm
I'm sorry it went that way.il padrone wrote:Mum was hospitalised and recovered a bit but further hemorrages led to her passing away. RIP. This was 15 years ago now, so it's not so sad any more.
Seizures can come completely out of the blue. You don't have to have a history of epilepsy to seize. I had a couple of seizures a wee while ago, what used to be called grand mal, now more accurately known as tonic-clonic or occasionally myoclonic - two different kinds but similar results. The the first of them came on when I was just wandering around Bunnings, as you do. Frightened the bejasus out of my wife when it happened.il padrone wrote:There was no reason to expect this sort of thing to happen, it just does to some people. This driver may have suffered a similar condition.
The thing is you don't necessarily know it's happening until its happened, kind of thing. As often as not you lose consciousness without the benefit of a prodrome that would at least give you the chance to pull over and put the handbrake on. If the driver in this case is diagnosed with epilepsy he'll lose his licence for a minimum of two years.
As you say, sometimes !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! happens and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Re: Cyclist run over
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Re: Cyclist run over
Postby ni78ck » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:50 am
yes the driver was taken to hospital. he was unaware of what he had done.wombatK wrote:Could still be an innocent explanation - e.g. first ever diabetic or epileptic seizure. Was the driver transported to hospital ? If someone who'd suffered a seizure or blackout refused transport to hospital via ambulance (i.e. medical treatment), it might raise suspicions they are covering up some negligence on their part. With someone in a critical condition, the police have to investigate all options and hopefully will get to the bottom of it. IIRC, due to the injuries to the cyclist, the police should also be taking blood samples from the driver to test for drugs etc.,. and taking him to hospital at least for that.ni78ck wrote: The driver is under investigation. The police have a warrant to search his home for medical history. He did not look like someone who should be driving under any circumstances. He was a P driver and under the influence of something.
It's terrible to hear the cyclist is so badly injured - and it must be devastating for his family, friends and riding buddies to have this just before Xmas. Best wishes for his recovery - and if there is anything that we can do to help, let us know.
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Re: Cyclist run over
Postby RobM » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:13 pm
I do feel for the driver as well, if its a case of an 'accident'. Or if it was a bad decision by the driver, I hope he/she has learnt how sometimes the smallest mistake can turn into the biggest regrets.
I remember leaving school and some other guys my age used to drink/drive or speed all the time when they first got their licences. They never crashed or hurt anyone, somehow. Then one day we heard a girl in our grade was killed when she looked down to change songs on the cd player while driving. Sometimes lifes not fair. (Those guys woke up to themselves eventually and im sure are grateful they didnt have to learn lessons the hard way).
But i digress. Best wishes and good luck to the guy in hospital and hope you can sleep easily knowing you did all you could to help.
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Re: Cyclist run over
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Re: Cyclist run over
Postby trailgumby » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:51 pm
Yes, that is true. A guy at church had a series of them and was off work for awhile. The first was nowhere near a car fortunately.London Boy wrote:As you say, sometimes showtime happens and there's nothing you can do about it.
I also saw a guy on a motorbike have a fit a few car lengths ahead of me one night at Spit Junction traffic lights while I was driving home from work. It looked kinda funny in a slapstick way , but bloody hell it was a near thing. If it had been even a few seconds later, after the light turned green and we were on our way down to Spit Bridge, it could have been a *very* different result. Fortunately he just toppled off the bike sideways to the right and the bike (a big BMW touring bike) didn't dart off. The traffic just waited and didn't move until he stopped convulsing, which i thought was good. Some peds seemed to have it under control so I didn't stop to assist.
You'd like to assume that the OP's crash was the first time the driver's had a siezure, but it's always worth checking.
Any further news on your pal, FT?
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Re: Cyclist run over
Postby sogood » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:30 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Cyclist run over
Postby Max » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:55 pm
Indeed. My partner has absence seizures. They can be subtle enough that people don't even realise she's having one. First diagnosed after having a seizure at the wheel, causing a head-on. The other people were unhurt. She had a broken collarbone. How she survived it, I'll never know.sogood wrote:To add that seizure (fit) can come in many forms. Some may not have obvious jerky movements.
To the OP, I wish your friend a full and speedy recovery.
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Re: Cyclist run over
Postby Schmenz » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:53 am
all the best for a speedy recovery to your friend. (as speedy as it can be at least).
seizures can be nasty and come out of nowhere. i had 2 in august for no particular reason - just blacked out and drove up a gutter all tests were negative and its never happened again thank god. i hope the driver is ok as well if it was a seizure while driving.
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Re: Cyclist run over
Postby timmcc » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:52 pm
Hope everyone pulls through ok
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