How hot is too hot to ride ....
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How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby MichaelB » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:54 am
Almost went stir crazy on New Years day, and was meant to get up early to beat the heat, but didn't manage it, so thought I'd head up into the huills where it is cooler later in the day.
Set off at 6pm, and quite quickly realised it was still a bit toasty ..... so decided that discretion is the better part of valour and headed towards the beach.
The garmin peaked at 41.8 degrees heading down Anzac Hwy, and dropped a couple by the time I got to Glenelg, but slowly climbed as I neared Outer Harbour.
Was still 37.6 when I reached home about 8:30pm having done 65km
I HATE really hot weather, especially when it stays hot at night.
Hopefully tonight is cooler and this is our summer heatwave. One or two days is bearable, but 5 sucks big time .....
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby rkelsen » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:22 am
Sitting indoors sucks, but you don't wanna kill yourself. 65km in that sort of heat is a pretty bloody good effort if you ask me, no matter how long it took. You'd wanna be carrying a fair amount of water though. Well done.
Glenelg would be pretty nice at this time of year, no? (sez he from the relative comfort of being 800km south east of there...)
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby MichaelB » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:27 am
Two stops for additional cool water. 5 1/2 bottles in total, plus 2 in the hour before leaving as well ....rkelsen wrote: ... You'd wanna be carrying a fair amount of water though. Well done.
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby rustychisel » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:57 am
Good work Michael, but I think you went out in very nearly the hottest part of that day.
New Years day, did Norton Summit etc early and was home by 9.30. It was several degrees cooler in the hills, for sure. For that very reason we decided NOT to go to the coast, which would have necessitated a hot run home across the city for us.
Sunday, went early, rather expected the cooler conditions in the hills but it was not to be. Overnight heat meant it was still stinky hot at the Scenic Hotel before 9am. Filthy day. I find the key is to not push it too hard, looking only to keep moving along and let the distance take care of itself, hydrating often and taking all the other usual precautions.
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby MichaelB » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:29 pm
Should be cooler in the hills, so will head up to Mt Lofty via Upper Sturt & Sturt Valley Rd. Will be saturating with water beforehand !!!
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby Fresh » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:00 pm
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby Daccordi Rider » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:43 pm
And thanks for the ride last week Michael, hope you enjoyed it.
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby Schmenz » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:46 pm
so im going to be a girl and wait another hour before going - may not be much cooler but at least the sun will be more afternoon that middle of the day sun
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby eeksll » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:26 pm
was definitely cooler up in the hills, but didn't want to go too far as there is no where to get water up in the hills.
I am going to need to have a loop that comes back into cityish/school area where i can fill up again ...
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby MichaelB » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:24 pm
I did indeed, and thanks for the great route. Heading up to Upper Sturt & Sturt Valley road tonightDaccordi Rider wrote: And thanks for the ride last week Michael, hope you enjoyed it.
Did you work out the freewheel issue ?
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby Fresh » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:37 pm
The toilets at the CFS on Norton Summit are always open to refill water bottles.eeksll wrote:
was definitely cooler up in the hills, but didn't want to go too far as there is no where to get water up in the hills.
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby Apple » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:53 pm
The TDU better not be that hot, as I am coming over I will have to DNF, there is no way my body can stand that sort of overheating
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:51 pm
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby MichaelB » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:16 am
My head doesn't overheat like thatApple wrote:You have got to be crazy. Your brain would cook in that sort of heat, especially under the helmet.
The TDU better not be that hot, as I am coming over I will have to DNF, there is no way my body can stand that sort of overheating
No brain, no pain. No sense, no feeling.
This mornings ride was almost freezing. 14.9 deg on the top of Mt Lofty - brrrrrrrr
Even last nights ride felt cold. Was only 30 deg at the start
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby Apple » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:38 am
such extremes in tempMichaelB wrote:Apple wrote:My head doesn't overheat like that
No brain, no pain. No sense, no feeling.
This mornings ride was almost freezing. 14.9 deg on the top of Mt Lofty - brrrrrrrr
Even last nights ride felt cold. Was only 30 deg at the start
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby Daccordi Rider » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:54 am
It was quite nice up in the hills yesterday arvo as it cooled off. Wheel at shop today, it has been closed but should be fine, probably just needs grease ready for 140km tomorrow.MichaelB wrote:I did indeed, and thanks for the great route. Heading up to Upper Sturt & Sturt Valley road tonightDaccordi Rider wrote: And thanks for the ride last week Michael, hope you enjoyed it.
Did you work out the freewheel issue ?
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby eeksll » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:13 pm
thanks, Ill have a look for them next time I am up there.Fresh wrote:The toilets at the CFS on Norton Summit are always open to refill water bottles.eeksll wrote:
was definitely cooler up in the hills, but didn't want to go too far as there is no where to get water up in the hills.
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby MichaelB » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:02 am
Not just a breeze, but a bloody GALE !!! Last nights ride and this morning ascent up Mt Lofty were nuts
In places where I am normally riding 50/21 or 50/19 on a good day, I was reduced to 34/27 and grunting away. It was stoopid !!
Mind you, nothing compared to battling cancer
Oh well, HTFU.
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby Mustang » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:21 am
Over 36c is not advisable, you loose more moisture than you can take on board.
Quote " At 30c you need one bottle per hour, at about 35c you are not able to consume enough fluids to counteract the amount of fluid your body is loosing" unquote.
70 years young.
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby liamb » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:24 am
Just a bit of a warning from experience. Quite a few years back I was doing a pre season with an amateur AFL team to get fit. Middle of summer heatwave doing endurance work on a 40 degree plus day. Got to about the hour point of a 90min session and collapsed fitting and vomiting then into a coma. Had massive swelling of the brain and shut down of organs. I had been drinking heaps (which i was told saved my body somewhat) but that NEVER prevents heat issues. Spent 3 weeks in ICU and the 3 months recovering and another 3 months getting back to somewhat less than normal. I am told I was extremely lucky and did not suffer permanent brain damage but I know I am not the same as I was before. My thinking is different and I have never been a sharp as I was. And my body has never and will never be the same as the doctors told me time and time again i think to make me realise how close I came to it.
I will never do it again, missing a ride or run bacause it is too hot is NOTHING, I have a family and more respect for my health. One doctor got fired up and asked what sort of a person goes out in excessive heat and puts themselves in such a position to kill themselves, think of your dam family!!! (his words have stuck with me every time I go to risk my health). I know I would had died if I was on a bike on my own or with others as there were no coaches, no ice, nowet towels and no transport close by to get to help ASAP. What happens if you fall on a super hot road with only a bike to get you to a hospital??.
I understand everyone is different and some bodies can take a hell of alot more than others but if you have a family and dont rely on cycling to pay the bills and dont have a support crew in a car to assist when !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! hits the fan is it really worth it???
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Re: How hot is too hot to ride ....
Postby MichaelB » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:55 pm
Thanks for sharing your experience. Lucky man indeed.
As with anything, you need to ride to the conditions, whether it is hot, cold, wet , windy or a combination.
I knew it was hot, took it easy (Avg HR for the ride was under 70%, and I took on plenty of cool water (stopped to buy fresh water twice).
At no point did I feel like I was in any heat stress, and I have experienced it before in the RAAF, so know the warning signs.
A valid lesson none the less.
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