2012 Cyclist fatalities

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2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby hannos » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:19 pm

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/hitandrun-cla" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 1pj5w.html
A cyclist has died after a hit-and-run accident in northern NSW.

A surf lifesaver stopped to help the man, aged in his 30s, who had been hit by a vehicle in Mullumbimby about 10am and suffered serious head injuries today.

The cyclist was taken to Mullumbimby Hospital where he died.
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Police are trying to find the driver of the vehicle and a report was being prepared for the coroner.

The death takes the NSW road toll to 19 since December 23.

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Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:13 pm

Please use this thread to report the sad loss of all our sisters and brothers of the velocipede.
I must ask that this sensitive topic be treated with the respect is deserves.

It is my profound hope that this is the quietest thread for the year.

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Postby Schmenz » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:32 pm

i am disappointed that this thread was made so soon :( RIP
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Postby KonaCommuter » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:57 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
It is my profound hope that this is the quietest thread for the year.

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Postby CommuRider » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:02 pm

Not enough to hit him but ran away too. This is murder by any other definition and a cowardly act. Good on the lifesaver on helping the cyclist - though in vain :( RIP, condolences to family and friends.
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Postby zero » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:15 am

CommuRider wrote:Not enough to hit him but ran away too. This is murder by any other definition and a cowardly act. Good on the lifesaver on helping the cyclist - though in vain :( RIP, condolences to family and friends.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/van-driver-on ... 1plsk.html

looks like the police agree it was murder by the actual definition too.

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Postby CommuRider » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:17 am

More here as well. Charged with murder and refused bail.

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/lates ... YWxsPTE%3D


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Man charged with murder following death of cyclist - Mullumbimby

Thursday, 05 January 2012 07:09:51 AM

Police have arrested and charged a man with murder after allegedly running down a cyclist at Mullumbimby earlier in the week. About 10:30am, Tuesday 3 January 2012, a 60-year-old man was riding his motorised bicycle south along Coolamon Scenic Drive when he was allegedly hit from behind by a white van. The van driver allegedly failed to stop at the scene and the 60-year-old man was found by a passing surf life saver. The injured man was taken to Mullumbimby Hospital where he died. Detectives from Tweed/Byron Local Area Command and officers from the Ballina Crash Investigation Unit attended the scene and commenced investigations into the incident. About 10am yesterday (Wednesday 4 January 2012), police attended a house in Nashua where they arrested a 53-year-old man and seized his white Toyota Hiace van for examination.

The man was taken to Byron Bay Police Station where he was charged with murder and dangerous driving occasioning death. He has been refused bail to appear in Lismore Local Court tomorrow (Thursday 5 January 2012).

Police would like to thank members of the public for their assistance with the matter, however, would still like to hear from anyone who witnessed the collision and has not yet spoken to police. Anyone with information that could assist police with their inquiries is asked to contact Byron Bay Police or Crime Stoppers 1800 333 000.
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Postby CommuRider » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:19 am

zero wrote:
CommuRider wrote:Not enough to hit him but ran away too. This is murder by any other definition and a cowardly act. Good on the lifesaver on helping the cyclist - though in vain :( RIP, condolences to family and friends.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/van-driver-on ... 1plsk.html

looks like the police agree it was murder by the actual definition too.
He didn't hand himself in either and M'bimby's a small town. Local killing a local and not stopping to help? Not a good look.
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Postby Ozkaban » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:19 am

zero wrote:
CommuRider wrote:Not enough to hit him but ran away too. This is murder by any other definition and a cowardly act. Good on the lifesaver on helping the cyclist - though in vain :( RIP, condolences to family and friends.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/van-driver-on ... 1plsk.html

looks like the police agree it was murder by the actual definition too.
Yeah, I heard about the murder charge this morning on the radio. To me it sounds like there might have been some history between the two parties here as a regular hit and run isn't usually murder... It has to be intentional. Could easily be wrong about this one though.

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Postby hannos » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:29 am

Ozkaban wrote: To me it sounds like there might have been some history between the two parties here as a regular hit and run isn't usually murder... It has to be intentional. Could easily be wrong about this one though.
Regardless of the history, I for one, am glad a murder charge has been laid.
Hopefully it'll start to get the message across that cyclist aren't targets.

Still, it doesn't help the victim's family at all :(
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Postby CommuRider » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:58 am

Wow, I don't like you so I'll just run you over and leave you to die :evil:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/839 ... list-death
Inspector Greg Jago said the two men knew each other. "We are aware that both parties knew each other prior to the incident and apparently there was some animosity between them," he told Fairfax Radio.
If there was no murder charge, the victim's family could very well have taken matters in their own hands.

SMH now has a photo of him and his e-bike. Bike is very serious looking with big engine and whitewall tyres. Not a run of the mill e-bike.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/muchloved-vol ... 1pm2d.html

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Postby CommuRider » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:50 pm

Curiouser and curiouser

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-05/m ... ection=nsw

Police say Mitchell lead them on a two-kilometre chase through rugged bushland before being caught. Inspector Greg Jago says information from the community led officers to Nashua.

"It is now apparent the collision involving the van and the bicycle at Mullumbimby wasn't an accident as was originally reported to police, and as a result a 53-year-old man has been charged with murder," he said.
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Postby Livetoride » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:00 pm

RIP and all our thoughts to his family. Lock the prat up for life in a cell mate called Bubba.
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Postby CommuRider » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:04 pm

Oxford wrote:Interesting that they have removed the death from the road toll because it is a murder charge.
Wondered about that too. Do they have enough evidence to show this was premeditated?
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Postby wombatK » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:10 pm

Oxford wrote: despite how I feel about the situation, I believe a charge of manslaughter will be the result, not murder.
The reports (e.g. Channel Nine's) clearly state he has been charged with murder, as a result of information received from
the public.

Perhaps someone overheard him describe what he intended to do, and has reported this. If so, the murder
charge could stick. Of course, there's all sorts of ways lawyers can twist and appeal things that could result
in a down-grade to manslaughter or culpable driving etc.,.

None of it brings the victim back, but let's hope some justice might be served - and that
bubba has his way with the offender.
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Postby CommuRider » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:39 pm

The car was used as a weapon to deliberately harm the deceased. The driver also had no compunction running away from the scene of a crime. I hope the magistrate takes into account that if it were a pedestrian, leniency would not be an option. Just the hatefest on the Daily Terror's page on this story does frighten me a bit with the constant justification that cyclists on roads are asking to be hit :? In this case, the perpetrator is known to the deceased but the latter being on his bike somehow makes it all right that the former can be eligible for a lesser sentence.

If a motive can be proven, that this was premeditated than a crime of opportunity, deliberate harm to a person causing his death is no less of a crime because he was on a bike, and a pioneering inventor at that.

That being said, he also ran away from the police and they chased him for 2kms before being caught. His actions after the crime must count for something.
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2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby herzog » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:19 am

CommuRider wrote:Wow, I don't like you so I'll just run you over and leave you to die :evil:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/839 ... list-death
Inspector Greg Jago said the two men knew each other. "We are aware that both parties knew each other prior to the incident and apparently there was some animosity between them," he told Fairfax Radio.

SMH now has a photo of him and his e-bike. Bike is very serious looking with big engine and whitewall tyres. Not a run of the mill e-bike.
Not an ebike at all by the looks of it. Appears to be one of those two-stroke things.

Technically it's an unregistered motorcycle.

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Postby scotto » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:28 am

this shouldnt count as a cyclist issue - its now reported they new each other and had previous issues. its just murder, not an accident in any way

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Postby simonn » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:35 am

Oxford wrote:
scotto wrote:this shouldnt count as a cyclist issue - its now reported they new each other and had previous issues. its just murder, not an accident in any way
I mostly agree with you, but it did involve a cyclist, or at least a person riding a bicycle (of sorts).
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Postby Wayfarer » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:36 pm

Oxford wrote:I mostly agree with you, but it did involve a cyclist, or at least a person riding a bicycle (of sorts). Other than knowing each other I wonder how different this is to a driver taking the same action (attempting to buzz/scare a cyclist) and then actually making contact and injuring/killing the cyclist?
I had a cousin who decided it would be funny to take his unloaded gun in the garage, point it at his mate and shoot him in the face for a joke. Unbeknown to him, his father (my uncle) had used it the day before to shoot snakes, and had left it loaded. He got jailed for murder, not manslaughter. I see no reason the same shouldn't happen here. He knew exactly what he was doing, and planned it out, even knowing the consequences of his actions.
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Postby CommuRider » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:55 pm

OMGosh wayfarer that's horrific. I can never understand the attraction of Russian roulette.
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Postby stinhambo » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:59 pm

Wayfarer wrote:
Oxford wrote:I mostly agree with you, but it did involve a cyclist, or at least a person riding a bicycle (of sorts). Other than knowing each other I wonder how different this is to a driver taking the same action (attempting to buzz/scare a cyclist) and then actually making contact and injuring/killing the cyclist?
I had a cousin who decided it would be funny to take his unloaded gun in the garage, point it at his mate and shoot him in the face for a joke. Unbeknown to him, his father (my uncle) had used it the day before to shoot snakes, and had left it loaded. He got jailed for murder, not manslaughter. I see no reason the same shouldn't happen here. He knew exactly what he was doing, and planned it out, even knowing the consequences of his actions.
That doesn't make sense unless he knew it was loaded and wanted to kill his mate? Anyway, I don't think this person's death should be treated as a cyclist casualty as it wasn't really a bicycle.
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Postby Livetoride » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:03 pm

Very sad to list another rider falls. RIP

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