Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby KenGS » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:37 pm
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby polishbiker » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:42 am
cranks - thorn triple solo crank:
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/thorn-110-74 ... -prod1673/
and this chainring:
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/thorn-110-mm ... prod11053/
Cannot find the answer i need. Chainring to be installed on the outside, i am sure some people have this setup as its quite common
Thanks!
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby il padrone » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:44 am
* the 73mm shell is actually a bit short, but the LH cup just screws in a bit deeper, and there's no problems with the crank.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby RonK » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:08 am
I'm not sure that the bike makes a difference, but the crankset may. For my VN Pioneer I used a Stronglight Impact Rohloff 39T crankset (actually it's a rebranded Sugino XD2) from Dotbike, for which a 118mm BB axle was recommended, but I find the chainline isn't quite right. I'm fussy about these things and have ordered a 122mm BB to correct it. A UN54 68 x 122 BB was only $14 including free shipping from c r c so no big deal.polishbiker wrote:Hopefully one of you has the answer, what BB length is recommended to achieve a 54cm chainaline on a Nomad mk2 with the following specs:
BTW, I ordered the crankset with the double chainguard but there wasn't enough clearance at the chain stay and I had to remove the inner guard. Perhaps with the wider BB I'll be able to refit it.
I've also ordered a 17T Rohloff sprocket and tool from Bike24 to adjust to the lowest recommended gearing.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby polishbiker » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:14 pm
il padrone - what made you mount the chainring on the inside with 113mm rather than outside with 118mm then? I am not fussed about the inside/outside as long as its proven to work well.
Curious to find out how you go with the new BB and double chainguard RonK. What are the benefits of using single/dual chainguard, anything noticable?
Ta.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby il padrone » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:51 pm
Saved me needing to buy a new BB.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby il padrone » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:21 pm
Stop!! got that wrong. To use the outer position for the chainring I would have actually needed a shorter axle, something like 108mm.il padrone wrote:Ahh! Should have got back to you earlier on this. My BB is a 73-113*, but I have the chainring on the middle ring position. To place it on the outer ring postion you would need a 118mm axle length.
Sorry, really talking through my a#$e there, just not thinking
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby rifraf » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:25 pm
Dont be so hard on yourself - its wine o'clock after allil padrone wrote:Stop!! got that wrong. To use the outer position for the chainring I would have actually needed a shorter axle, something like 108mm.il padrone wrote:Ahh! Should have got back to you earlier on this. My BB is a 73-113*, but I have the chainring on the middle ring position. To place it on the outer ring postion you would need a 118mm axle length.
Sorry, really talking through my a#$e there, just not thinking
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby polishbiker » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:49 pm
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby rifraf » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:48 am
"The delivery of Rohloff SPEEDHUBs to Australia is unfortunately not possible."
They have changed their website quite a bit too.
I wonder if this coincides with there now being an agent in Australia
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby Baalzamon » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:52 am
This is an error on Starbikes website, well it was a few months ago. It happened to Polishbiker when he was pricing up parts and sent off an email to them asking and they confirmed they could. Unless things have changed now...rifraf wrote:I was just checking the Rohloff prices on Starbike and spotted:
"The delivery of Rohloff SPEEDHUBs to Australia is unfortunately not possible."
They have changed their website quite a bit too.
I wonder if this coincides with there now being an agent in Australia
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
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Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby RonK » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:08 pm
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby Baalzamon » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:19 pm
I got my Rohloff from Bike24 anyhow as I was ordering a Son28 from starbike along with spokes. Would have definitely put me into paying GST + Duty here.RonK wrote:Well, no problem - Bike24 will probably offer a better price than Starbike anyway.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby rifraf » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:25 pm
If they are going start making it harder to import one, I'm might start thinking about taking the plunge and grabbing on for
future use.
My current bike has rim brakes but I'd consider getting a disk brake version for future upgrade paths.
I'm thinking I wouldnt want a quick release version as I'd feel it was slightly more secure utelising a threaded axle.
Thoughts anyone?
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Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby polishbiker » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:38 pm
Yep, i emailed them about it, they removed the message later, new website now so perhaps used old templates or something so message is back but no problem buying it.Baalzamon wrote:This is an error on Starbikes website, well it was a few months ago. It happened to Polishbiker when he was pricing up parts and sent off an email to them asking and they confirmed they could. Unless things have changed now...rifraf wrote:I was just checking the Rohloff prices on Starbike and spotted:
"The delivery of Rohloff SPEEDHUBs to Australia is unfortunately not possible."
They have changed their website quite a bit too.
I wonder if this coincides with there now being an agent in Australia
As ronk said, bike24 would be cheaper tho.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby Aushiker » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:35 pm
Maybe. Depends on postage too. I have found that overall I can often do better at Starbikes.com than with Bike24.net. Bike24.net will charge you more for postage if the value of the order goes over a certain point, whereas Starbikes reduce the postage cost.polishbiker wrote:As ronk said, bike24 would be cheaper tho.
Also one needs to divide the price listed at Starbikes by 1.19 to remove the VAT.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby rifraf » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:38 pm
Thanks for clearing that up Pawelpolishbiker wrote:Yep, i emailed them about it, they removed the message later, new website now so perhaps used old templates or something so message is back but no problem buying it.
As ronk said, bike24 would be cheaper tho.
I was worried that the Rohloff was going to become impossible to get from overseas due to "protectionism".
We see now products from Evans and Wiggle that are UK or EU only and I was wondering if this hub was heading in the same direction.
I'd rather not have to outlay a grand right now to just sit there until I'm ready for my next upgrade path which really I'd like to put
off for as long as possible or when something expensive breaks or wears out.
I'd like to get at least a year from my new Sram Dualdrive rear wheel before looking afield.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby Aushiker » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:41 pm
Product: Rohloff Speedhub 500/14 CC DB
Ex Bike24.net including postage - Euro 893.60
Ex Starbikes.com including postage - Euro 892.86
Very little actually in it, but Starbikes did come out in front.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby rifraf » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:00 pm
So approx $1,112.01 AUDAushiker wrote:Just did a quick and dirty price comparison out of curiosity:
Product: Rohloff Speedhub 500/14 CC DB
Ex Bike24.net including postage - Euro 893.60
Ex Starbikes.com including postage - Euro 892.86
Very little actually in it, but Starbikes did come out in front.
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Tis not chump change so good not to have to worry about Euro supply
being squeezed which is what was concerning me.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby Aushiker » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:05 pm
Keep in mind I picked the disk brake model for this comparison; you probably need one of the lower priced models.rifraf wrote:So approx $1,112.01 AUD
Tis not chump change so good not to have to worry about Euro supply
being squeezed which is what was concerning me.
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby polishbiker » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:35 pm
Ordered a package from bike24 on 7th of December - arrived on 4th of January
Ordered a package from *bike on 19th of December - arrived on 4th of January
Not quite sure how it works! Both packages were delivered and arrived to Australia on the same day (DHL tracking), 1 hour apart.
For non-disc models you would generally spend just under 1000AUD$ so no tax/duty taxes! I am ordering my hub in the next few days.
**for CC EX OEM hub(anodized black) *bike is ~30AUD$ more expensive than bike24 so its money versus time**
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
Postby Aushiker » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:43 pm
I haven't had a warranty experience with Starbike.com but I have with Bike24.net. That experience is enough to swing me to Starbike.com.polishbiker wrote:Hm, if the price tag is so close then i would go for *bike then because of the delivery time..
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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together
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