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Maltodextrin

Postby notwal » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:10 pm

Where do you get maltodextrin? The health food shops around here don't stock it.
I found some brewer's sugar at Woolies. It has maltodextrin in it but they don't say how much.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby Mugglechops » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:15 pm

Is it the coopers sugar? I bought some to make my own sports drinks but lost the recipe. Would a home brew shop have it?
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby trailgumby » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:24 pm

Try these guys: http://www.myopure.com.au/

I've used them before and their stuff is good, minus the fancy packaging with the exaggerated claims.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby PawPaw » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:06 pm

Have bought online from several suppliers and walk in from Ada Street, Taringa.
http://www.adastreet.com.au/content/cms ... TRIN/1710/

I have most of a large box left I bought about 4 mths ago from Ada Street.
It's packaged in sealed 500g plastic bags, and am happy to sell you 1 or several if you don't want a lot. I paid around $12 /kg.

I looked far and wide and never found pure maltodextrin from supermarkets, pharmacies, health food shops or home brew shops.
Had to go online or to a supplement retailer.

I messed around making my own gels, but eventually realized it's less hassle to buy 120ml flasks and stick cordial, salts, and maltodextrin in. No need to brew it up into a gel.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby munga » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:54 am

don't they cut speed with that stuff?
go ask your neighbourhood drug dealer 8)
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby duds2u » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:09 am

You should be able to get it a any good home brew shop.

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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby notwal » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:39 am

munga wrote:don't they cut speed with that stuff?
go ask your neighbourhood drug dealer 8)

Perfect. I can ditch the cattle prod.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby pagey » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:37 pm

i get mine from myopure as well
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Re: Re: Maltodextrin

Postby clackers » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:08 pm

PawPaw wrote:
I messed around making my own gels, but eventually realized it's less hassle to buy 120ml flasks and stick cordial, salts, and maltodextrin in. No need to brew it up into a gel.


That's basically what I do, but chuck each into the water of the bidon.

The local home brew shop sells bags of dried corn syrup labelled as 'brew improver' ... 2 kg for $20 IIRC. Beats $3 for about 20g in a commercial gel.

Maltodextrin gives beers and stouts a creamier texture, apparently.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby snark » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:32 pm

K-Mart (at least in Geelong) sells Coopers Maltodextrin in 500g boxes. I can't recall the exact price, but it's somewhere around the $5ish mark. Note that Coopers sells other brewing sugars as well - get the box that explicitly says "Maltodextrin" on it.

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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby Nate » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:33 am

Try a supplament place too - where all teh bodybuilding stuff is.

Its typically marketed as "pure carbs", look at the label & it'll be high carbs & low sugars
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby mogwaiboi » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:30 am

Coopers brewing sugar is 80% dextrose and 20% maltodextrin. I got some from Woolworth's and used it for the first time last week to make some gel, and it was a bit sweet for my liking due to the high dextrose %. I used some of it on a sweltering ride last week and it seemed to do the trick though. I got a jar of rice syrup to try out with my next batch of gel.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby BeerRider » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:48 am

If you're in or around North Sydney, then you could pick some up from Dave's Homebrew shop. I think they are 1kg packets. The booster and body pack are what you get at Woolies labelled Brew enhancer 1+2, which are a certain %age mix of different sugars. Dave has 100% Maltodextrin for $9.60/kg. Other homebrew shops might have it as well. The main ones that I know of in each captial city are:

Brisbane - Craftbrewer (don't have it on website, but should have it in store)
Melbourne - Grain and Grape (don't have it on website, but should have it in store)
Adelaide - Beer Belly (have it for $6.50/kg)
Perth - Gryphon Brewing (don't have it on website, but should have it in store)

There's many more different stores, but they are the main ones that I know of.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby Nate » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:43 pm

ebay!

Mr Vitamins is where i get mine - they have an online shop
mr Supplements: http://www.mrsupplement.com.au/nhs-maltodextrin
http://www.bulkpowders.com.au/#/maltode ... 4540564709

Just google Maltodextrin & there'll be more than a few answers
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby Addictr3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:51 pm

how come you want it?
If you can't explain it simply, then you don't understand it well enough.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby notwal » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:00 pm

PawPaw wrote:Have bought online from several suppliers and walk in from Ada Street, Taringa.
http://www.adastreet.com.au/content/cms ... TRIN/1710/
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Thanks for the tip PawPaw. I dropped in to Ada St. It's pretty handy. I bought some maltodextrin and some Arginine from them on the strength of a trial I read about a while ago.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby notwal » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:17 pm

Addictr3 wrote:how come you want it?

Fuel. It's starch - relatively low GI sugar. I put it in my biddens for rides over 50 km along with other stuff.
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Re: Re: Maltodextrin

Postby clackers » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:13 pm

notwal wrote:
Addictr3 wrote:how come you want it?

Fuel. It's starch - relatively low GI sugar. I put it in my biddens for rides over 50 km along with other stuff.


Yep, high GI Gatorade style powder and low GI maltodextrin give your bidon most of what a gel will.

And if you crush up a No-Doze in a mortar and pestle ... ;-)
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby PawPaw » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:10 pm

I've got a box of no-doz in the freezer, though prefer a double shot piccolo pre-race. :)
Just remember a high dose of it can kill ya :twisted:

I also add BCAAs (leucine, isoleucine, valine)and beta alanine to my mix.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby Bentnose » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:21 pm

Any homebrew shop will have maltodextrin, also known as corn syrup, I use it all the time for my home brew.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby steve-waters » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:14 am

http://professionalwhey.com.au/

Stephen from Professional Whey is where I get all my supplements for riding and when i was doing serious gym work - simple, pure, no artifical junk and good value.

He will even answer the phone and have a chat about supplements if you call him up - so not just a faceless online shop.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby PawPaw » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:28 pm

Bentnose wrote:Any homebrew shop will have maltodextrin, also known as corn syrup, I use it all the time for my home brew.


When I researched this and spoke to several local home brew shops, I was told there is a difference between corn syrup and maltodextrin.

The former has shorter dextrose chains with a dextrose equivalent of >= 20 DE.

The latter has longer chains with DE between 5 and 20. These are absorbed more slowly by the gut than the shorter corn syrup chains, which is the only reason to take maltodetrin.

None of the home brew shops had 100% pure maltodextrin. They all had shorter chain sugars added.
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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby Bentnose » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:43 pm

PawPaw wrote:
Bentnose wrote:Any homebrew shop will have maltodextrin, also known as corn syrup, I use it all the time for my home brew.


When I researched this and spoke to several local home brew shops, I was told there is a difference between corn syrup and maltodextrin.

The former has shorter dextrose chains with a dextrose equivalent of >= 20 DE.

The latter has longer chains with DE between 5 and 20. These are absorbed more slowly by the gut than the shorter corn syrup chains, which is the only reason to take maltodetrin.

None of the home brew shops had 100% pure maltodextrin. They all had shorter chain sugars added.


Interesting, it may be 100% maltodextrin though, just not the sort your after, it looks like you can get maltodextrin from other things besides corn, it just so happens home brew uses a corn based maltodextrin. I used to use Maxim energy powder that claims to be 96% maltodextrin.
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Re: Re: Maltodextrin

Postby Trev Campbell » Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:02 pm

clackers wrote:
notwal wrote:
Addictr3 wrote:how come you want it?

Fuel. It's starch - relatively low GI sugar. I put it in my biddens for rides over 50 km along with other stuff.


Yep, high GI Gatorade style powder and low GI maltodextrin give your bidon most of what a gel will.

And if you crush up a No-Doze in a mortar and pestle ... ;-)


Just wondering how much you put in ??? The Gatorate poweder is usually about 2 scoops per biddon, Do you replace 1 scoop with maltodextrin or add 2 scoops ontop of the gatorade ????

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Re: Maltodextrin

Postby notwal » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:11 pm

^^^ I don't have any recommendation. I've been using 2 desert spoons of maltodextrin in addition to anything else and that seems to work. It disappears in plain water and is almost tasteless.
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