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TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby fixed » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:39 pm

Channel Nine have the TV rights for the next three years, say they're going into partnership with SA's biggest sporting festival.
Liggett and Sherwin will again be commenting.
Saturday and Sunday will be televised live and also live streamed.
Sunday (Down Under Classic) Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday will be a highlights show.
So everything we have received from SBS in terms of TV seems the same.

Channel Nine were chosen to boost the national audience for cycling, and the first concrete measure they do to give the sport of cycling in an Olympic year a high profile in their daily schedule?
That would be what any cycling fan might expect.

The five preliminary days highlights of the TdU will be shown at either 22.30 or 23.30.
The SBS showed their commitment to the sport by getting the first highlights package broadcast at 18.00, all done from the tiny OB van parked at the finish line. The later highlights repeats were sometimes further edited for a repeat on SBS2.

Channel nine have enormous resources in sport, they will be broadcasting the Australia India Test Match from the WACA on the first weekend.

Channel Nine cannot deliver what SBS have done in the past.

Thing is Nine has three digital channels - 9, 90(Gem) and 99(Go!)
There is no attempt to cross promote a half hour highlights programme on the alternate channels, AND BROADCAST AT A TIME WHEN CYCLISTS AND POTENTIAL CYCLISTS ARE LIKELY TO BE AWAKE TO WATCH IT.

I think Channel Nine have no idea about cycling at all, their scheduling does not match their PR spin. Steve Crawley, head of sport for nine, obviously hasnt the gravitas within the nine organisation to deliver what Australian cycling TV audiences have expected and received from SBS.

So Nine, you've started poorly, what are you going to deliver during the TdU that will make cyclists believe you are committed to improving cycling coverage in 2012 and beyond.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby DavidS » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:52 pm

Gee, Epic Fail for Channel 9 covering cycling. Who'd have thought?

But to be serious for a moment: surely they could put this on one of their other channels. I know test cricket is more popular (hey, I like test cricket, can't be bothered with short form cricket though) and will get more coverage but why do they have 3 channels and buy the rights to this and not show it? Stupid.

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby igstar » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:31 pm

DavidS wrote:But to be serious for a moment: surely they could put this on one of their other channels. I know test cricket is more popular (hey, I like test cricket, can't be bothered with short form cricket though) and will get more coverage but why do they have 3 channels and buy the rights to this and not show it? Stupid.


If SBS doesn't have it, you won't change that channel, so you are more likely to stay on 9 and watch shows for which they can get more advertising (e.g. cricket). They can't get anywhere near enough advertising money for a cycling event, especially since the event lasts for so long. On SBS is doesn't need to compete with cricket, AFL/NRL, olympics so it can be put in prime time.
It works similar to the soccer where a big club would buy all the good players from a weeker club and even though these players will spend a lot of their time on the bench, the weaker club won't have them at their disposal.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby im_no_pro » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:41 pm

igstar wrote:
DavidS wrote:But to be serious for a moment: surely they could put this on one of their other channels. I know test cricket is more popular (hey, I like test cricket, can't be bothered with short form cricket though) and will get more coverage but why do they have 3 channels and buy the rights to this and not show it? Stupid.


If SBS doesn't have it, you won't change that channel, so you are more likely to stay on 9 and watch shows for which they can get more advertising (e.g. cricket). They can't get anywhere near enough advertising money for a cycling event, especially since the event lasts for so long. On SBS is doesn't need to compete with cricket, AFL/NRL, olympics so it can be put in prime time.
It works similar to the soccer where a big club would buy all the good players from a weeker club and even though these players will spend a lot of their time on the bench, the weaker club won't have them at their disposal.


Exactly. The benefit for 9 is not that they have it, it's that SBS don't. Possibly also stopping from 10/1 having it if cyclingSA have sprouted it to all the majors.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby fixed » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:56 pm

So my theory goes like this.
During each day of the TdU there is full tv filming, which is beamed down to the production OB van. The production people select their edits, Phil and Paul make their comments during the racing live. Channel Nein show their support for the biggest sporting event in Australia and take the production edits into a highlights package that is broadcast after three year old American repeats.

Is any of the TdU filming live broadcast to Europe as part of the contractual obligations for the UCI World Tour? These crazy euros and their love of cycling...
Cos then restreaming from the usual places would be a definite alternative to Channel Nein.

A couple of the restreaming sites seem set up to deliver this for the TdU, though they are hedging
International broadcasters announced include Sky Sports and ITV (UK), Setanta (Ireland), RTL (Luxembourg), Sport + (France), Teledeporte (Spain), Direct TV (South and Central America), Astro (Malaysia), Sky TV (New Zealand), TV2 Sport (Norway), Eurosport Asia, J-Sports (Japan), Versus (USA), Rogers (Canada), and Supersport (Pan-Africa). It is expected that most international broadcasts of the TdU will consist of race highlights or replays. Check your local listings for broadcast details.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby DavidS » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:10 pm

im_no_pro wrote:
igstar wrote:
DavidS wrote:But to be serious for a moment: surely they could put this on one of their other channels. I know test cricket is more popular (hey, I like test cricket, can't be bothered with short form cricket though) and will get more coverage but why do they have 3 channels and buy the rights to this and not show it? Stupid.


If SBS doesn't have it, you won't change that channel, so you are more likely to stay on 9 and watch shows for which they can get more advertising (e.g. cricket). They can't get anywhere near enough advertising money for a cycling event, especially since the event lasts for so long. On SBS is doesn't need to compete with cricket, AFL/NRL, olympics so it can be put in prime time.
It works similar to the soccer where a big club would buy all the good players from a weeker club and even though these players will spend a lot of their time on the bench, the weaker club won't have them at their disposal.


Exactly. The benefit for 9 is not that they have it, it's that SBS don't. Possibly also stopping from 10/1 having it if cyclingSA have sprouted it to all the majors.


That may well be true. But it does beg the question: what's in it for the TDU and for CyclingSA?

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Oxford » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:28 pm

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby timbo » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:03 am

The TDU website lists the following for television broadcasting:

Television coverage
In 2012, the Santos Tour Down Under will be broadcast across the globe showcasing the WorldTour event while bringing the best of South Australia's beautiful beaches, wine regions and towns to television screens around the world.

Channel Nine - Wide World of Sports

Australian viewers can enjoy all the action of the 2012 Santos Tour Down Under on Channel Nine's Wide World of Sports.

Hosted by Andrew Voss, the Nine Network coverage will present extensive daily highlights and broadcast the final two stages live. The international voices of cycling, Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen, will provide expert roadside commentary.

In a first for the event, wwos.ninemsn.com.au will stream live coverage of the Down Under Classic, Jayco Stage 5 and Stage 6. Highlights packages will also be available each evening for Stages 1-4

2012 Broadcast Schedule:

Channel Nine

Sunday 15 January:
10.30pm-12am - Down Under Classic (90 minute highlights)

Tuesday 17 January:
11.30pm-12.30am - Stage 1 (1 hour highlights)

Wednesday 18 January:
11.20pm-12.20am - Colemans Group Stage 2 (1 hour highlights)

Thursday 19 January:
11.30pm-12.30am - Stage 3 (1 hour highlights)

Friday 20 January:
11.00pm-12.00pm - Bupa Stage 4 (1 hour highlights)

Saturday 21 January: Jayco Stage 5 LIVE broadcast:
11.00am-3.30pm - Adelaide
10.30am-3pm - Brisbane
11.30am-4pm - Sydney/Melbourne
8.30am-1pm - Perth

Sunday 22 January: Stage 6 LIVE broadcast:
12.30pm-3.30pm - Adelaide
12.00pm-3.00pm - Brisbane
1.00pm-4.00pm - Sydney/Melbourne
10.00am-1.00pm - Perth

NOTE: subject to change
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TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby ozzymac » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:37 am

They couldn't put the highlights on any later?

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby 1st XV » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:47 am

This shouldnt come as a surpise to anybody really.......Channel 9 has a reputation for waiting until something gains popularity, then outbidding every other channel just so nobody else has it. Rugby World Cup, Cricket World Cup, etc etc etc.........I now refuse to watch any program on 9, such is my loathe for them........
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Uncle Just » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:17 am

I agree with the late highlights programming as being too late. SBS are a lot poorer these days and can't get into bidding wars. Don't know about Turtur, is he just a front man or a canny operator?

I'm no apologist for 9 but pre SBS getting into the TdF highlights in the early 90s, 9 was the only channel that showcased international ie Euro cycling in the mid to late 80s. (SBS had shown the Giro in the early 80s) so I'm forever grateful to nine for the highlights shown of PR and the Tour on a cold winter's Saturday arvo on WWOS. Even if I did have to put up with Ken, Max and Alan discussing "tactics and the yellow jacket". :lol:
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby population100 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:25 am

So in 1 hour of highlights how much cycling do you think we'll see

1 hour - advertising - promotion of the 'wine region' = not much cycling action
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby uncle arthur » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:12 am

so has anyone made channel 9 officially aware of their concerns?
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Oxford » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:16 am

uncle arthur wrote:so has anyone made channel 9 officially aware of their concerns?

so does anyone think Ch9 really care what we think?
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:51 pm

I gotta get up @0430 that week, a nice evening package like SBS aint gonna happen :roll:
If I'm lucky I might manage to cop about 30-40" of the final stage. :(
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TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby im_no_pro » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:12 pm

Mulger bill wrote:I gotta get up @0430 that week, a nice evening package like SBS aint gonna happen :roll:
If I'm lucky I might manage to cop about 30-40" of the final stage. :(


Record it and watch in the morning over weeties and coffee. Cant be much else on the idiotbox at that hour.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby bosvit » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:14 pm

Mulger bill wrote:I gotta get up @0430 that week, a nice evening package like SBS aint gonna happen :roll:
If I'm lucky I might manage to cop about 30-40" of the final stage. :(

Sounds like you need a DVR Mr Bill.... :D
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:24 pm

Had one for a while now, worked a treat. Then we went digital (for 2011 le Tour) :( I've tried a dozen times to get a decent pic with indifferent success. Me mate Kon who does this stuff for a quid fitted an inline booster which improved things from snow to heavy rain. I might dust off the ol' VCR and try to remember to rewind... :?
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby bosvit » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:35 pm

Mulger bill wrote:Had one for a while now, worked a treat. Then we went digital (for 2011 le Tour) :( I've tried a dozen times to get a decent pic with indifferent success. Me mate Kon who does this stuff for a quid fitted an inline booster which improved things from snow to heavy rain. I might dust off the ol' VCR and try to remember to rewind... :?

If it is a digital signal there shouldn't be any snow or rain.

It should be good, pixelated or plain old not working :|
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:46 pm

Please excuse the old mans poor metaphor.
Mainly pixels with more than a hint of nothing.
We live in a valley, Kon thinks a 20m mast might help.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Prawn » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:42 am

Got to agree with much of what has already been said. Highlights of the days stage at 11pm?? No, not real good. Surely, Nine could have replaced repeats of "two and a half men" (or similar) on one of its channels with a few hours of cycling each day? I'd love to understand what thinking (if any) went into this decision making process.
Further, what the hell is Andrew Voss going to bring to it as a host? Nine could have at least tried to find someone with a background of racing.
I note the earlier posts but can anyone actually post a link to a live stream so i can watch is live?
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Daccordi Rider » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:35 am

I still hate Nein for what they have done to Top Gear. Barstards!
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Fresh » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:41 am

Is Eurosport or any other mob doing their own highlights show? If so I will just download a torrent. F*** 9.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Oxford » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:44 am

They do it to all TV, I'm so tired of the way 9 and all of them treat their viewers. Now I don't wait to be treated with contempt and be subjected to how they want to release shows to the viewers, I just download/stream the TV shows I want. The only reason we have the TV on is to watch Pay TV or recorded FTA TV.

One other thing to note with those TV times for the TdU is that they will vary without notice sometimes by up to 30 minutes. I've had shows cutoff where I have even included 20 minutes of post show time in the recording. Very annoying.
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