Living with a velomobile

[nitramluap]

Don't you have to wear a skid lid in Melbourne while using a Velo as the rider appears not to have one.

Yes, you have to wear one but it makes little sense to really... but unfortunately the law is not terribly flexible (unlike the seatbelt law) so he's also breaking the law I'm afraid... but who am I to care? He looks happy to me!

[John Lewis]

I've just ordered a Mango, so will be number 2 in Bris I think! Oh the notoriety!

G'day Terry,

Good to see you have put in an appearance.
Gives Ricky and Baalzamon a bit of hurry up.
What options did you decide on?
John

[Baalzamon]

Might be a 1yr before I can get it. Want to kill one bill....

[burnt]

Hi John,

I just went standard set up with an extra mirror! Didn't want to push my luck with the Minister of Finance. Got a reply from Sinner yesterday to advise they have received my deposit. All contact with them so far has been prompt (within a few days), so hopeful the 2-3 month estimate for build and delivery will be accurate.

They did say they would beef up the suspension for my weight, (just into triple figures!)-didn't say whether that would mean additional cost-hopefully not.

[}SkOrPn--7]

What size deposit does sinners ask for?

Ricky

[burnt]

€500

[}SkOrPn--7]

€500

Wow Burnt I thought it would have been a few grand so that is reasonable and does the final price include shipment?

Ricky

[burnt]

Shipping is about €1800, this is air freight delivered to your door. You also have to pay GST in AUS, so it certainly adds to the cost. I am hoping to have it all done just under $10k. Its a lot, but there are plenty of flash road bikes out there for more and....damn, I just did it, I figure a mid life crisis involving motor bike or sports car would have cost a lot more!!

[}SkOrPn--7]

Ok thanks Burnt I have seen the 10k bandied around but if that is the grand total roughly of GST and shipping then that is a fair price so it would seem that 3 months is the waiting time once your deposit is made is that correct?

Ricky

[John Lewis]

Hi Ricky,
I paid my Deposit on 30th September. They didn't acknowledge until 16th Nov after I asked on BROL to get their attention.
First reply from Harry Lieben said it was on the way but I knew that was wrong as I hadn't paid the balance. Turned out that was the one that went to Vic. Then Arjen emailed that it was "born". Here's an excerpt from email of 17th Nov 2011.

"Of course your Sinner Mango Sport is in production because you have paid teh prepayment for weeks ago.
It is correct we have forgotten to send you a confirmation we have received the money apologise for that!

Attached there is the orderconfirmation, the main part of the body of your bike is already made today, we say
is born today, we have increased the production and do produce 6 Mango's per mounth these days.

I let you know when the bike will be finished!"

So it shouldn't be much longer. I have the extra of the race hood and that might be holding up the shipment until it is done as I think they have quite a few orders on those to fill.

The "Offerte" they sent shows the cost of the bike and the extras, the air freight at $1861, the insurance at at $83 and the Packaging at $109 (rounded figures.). This does not include duty at 5% if applicable, GST or Customs Agents fees. I might go down to the local Customs office and ask some questions as I might not need the agent. A friend who imported a big articulated front end loader told me he did all that himself at a saving.
A bicycle complete is apparently exempt duty but I don't know if a velo is classed as that.
Have a look here.

http://www.bicycles.net.au/Australian-C ... eID%5D=894

Waiting impatiently,

John

[}SkOrPn--7]

Thanks John seems it's a common theme sinners are a little slow in the rely or paper work department but they get there in the end which is fine with me.

Ricky

[nitramluap]

Shipping is about €1800, this is air freight delivered to your door. You also have to pay GST in AUS, so it certainly adds to the cost. I am hoping to have it all done just under $10k. Its a lot, but there are plenty of flash road bikes out there for more and....damn, I just did it, I figure a mid life crisis involving motor bike or sports car would have cost a lot more!!

My wife is happy that I'm spending money & time on bicycles as it means I'm not spending money & time on other women! I love my wife

[nitramluap]

Ok thanks Burnt I have seen the 10k bandied around but if that is the grand total roughly of GST and shipping then that is a fair price so it would seem that 3 months is the waiting time once your deposit is made is that correct?

Ricky

Yes, my Mango was about AUD$9,500 delivered a year ago. The exchange rate wasn't as good as it is now but the shipping was about 200 Euro less... swings & roundabouts.

[Baalzamon]

Well if the euro drops massively well all the best for me, means I might be saving a few grand in getting it Shipping might be painful tho, could be worth a trip tho to get it...

[John Lewis]

My bare mango without the extras looks to be about $7528 AUD at the current exchange rate using the online currency converter.
€ 6126. All the extras push it out a bit. Need to get the calculator out to itmise it though and can't be bothered. Freight etc is on top.
These understanding wives are nice to have eh?

John

[Rhubarb]

My wife is happy that I'm spending money & time on bicycles as it means I'm not spending money & time on other women! I love my wife

When I told my wife how much they cost she said "Why can't you just have an affair like all the other men?"

She was joking of course ... at least I think so .....

[nitramluap]

My wife is happy that I'm spending money & time on bicycles as it means I'm not spending money & time on other women! I love my wife

When I told my wife how much they cost she said "Why can't you just have an affair like all the other men?"

She was joking of course ... at least I think so .....

Heh heh! She is, however, not considering the extra costs of an affair to one party in particular - ie. divorce.

[Rhubarb]

The "Offerte" they sent shows the cost of the bike and the extras, the air freight at $1861, the insurance at at $83 and the Packaging at $109 (rounded figures.). This does not include duty at 5% if applicable, GST or Customs Agents fees. I might go down to the local Customs office and ask some questions as I might not need the agent. A friend who imported a big articulated front end loader told me he did all that himself at a saving.

John,

Sorry you're still having to wait. I saw Paul's Mango briefly again today and its all I can think about. And I haven't even placed an order yet !!! getting close though

Anyway, is that freight AUD or euros?

I'd like to know more about your chat with customs too.

Cheers

[Aushiker]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0jZxzs1KMY&hd=1[/youtube]

Andrew

[nitramluap]

Excellent

Here is mine (rear blowout) - jump to the 2 minute mark:

[John Lewis]

The "Offerte" they sent shows the cost of the bike and the extras, the air freight at $1861, the insurance at at $83 and the Packaging at $109 (rounded figures.). This does not include duty at 5% if applicable, GST or Customs Agents fees. I might go down to the local Customs office and ask some questions as I might not need the agent. A friend who imported a big articulated front end loader told me he did all that himself at a saving.

John,

Sorry you're still having to wait. I saw Paul's Mango briefly again today and its all I can think about. And I haven't even placed an order yet !!! getting close though

Anyway, is that freight AUD or euros?

I'd like to know more about your chat with customs too.

Cheers

Aahhhg! You'll hate this. I boobed. Those figures are all Euros. The freight is the big pain.

Yes I keep looking hopefully in my email every day to see if I have anything.
Keeping an eye on the Euro. 1.2442 on Friday. Today shows 1.23163.

I've not been down to customs yet.

John

[nitramluap]

Sweet!

[Rhubarb]

Just placed my order for a Sinner Mango Sport Red Edition with racing hood

The wait begins ....

[John Lewis]

Just placed my order for a Sinner Mango Sport Red Edition with racing hood

The wait begins ....

These things will be breeding like rabbits soon.
Thats Paul's, the Melbourne one, mine, burnt's and now yours. Five by my count.
Congrats on taking the plunge.

I'm still waiting. I've heard nothing since eventually getting the order confirmed but check my email daily in anticipation.

John

[Rhubarb]

F1 style paddle shifters anyone ?

http://www.sinnerbikes.com/customer_bik ... Di2/album/