Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
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Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
Postby arkle » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:53 pm
Soo... I'm coming to Darwin on holiday and I want to bring my bike with me on the plane. Will the police care if I ride in Darwin with no helmet on?
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Postby trickle » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:11 pm
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Re: Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
Postby hosko » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:46 pm
I think this should answer your question better than the last poster.
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Postby trickle » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:56 am
Geez chill outhosko wrote:http://www.nt.gov.au/transport/ntroads/ ... Safety.pdf
I think this should answer your question better than the last poster.
What I should have done was use an emoticon and [mod says - personal attack removed].
Whats more, if your excuse for not wanting to wear a helmet is that you get too hot... take up chess.
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Re: Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
Postby arkle » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:14 am
Haha funnily enough I play chess competitively!!trickle wrote:Geez chill outhosko wrote:http://www.nt.gov.au/transport/ntroads/ ... Safety.pdf
I think this should answer your question better than the last poster.
What I should have done was use an emoticon and linked to the mango riding zealot and his one sided opinions on the matter.
Whats more, if your excuse for not wanting to wear a helmet is that you get too hot... take up chess.
I can see I've opened a can of worms - I'm not really interested in the debate about whether we should have to wear a helmet, or whether they make a difference to safety, I just want to know if the police in Darwin are going to stop me and tell me off for riding without one on
Please?
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Re: Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
Postby arkle » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:17 am
Thank you hosko, but the confusing thing is that I was in Darwin last weekend visiting a friend and none of the cyclists I saw (on the road) had helmets on.hosko wrote:http://www.nt.gov.au/transport/ntroads/ ... Safety.pdf
I think this should answer your question better than the last poster.
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Postby trickle » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:21 am
I'm in the Arathor battle league, we play full contact with edged weapons. Helmets are mandatory.
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Re: Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
Postby arkle » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:53 am
Very confusing
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Postby trailgumby » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:02 pm
Sorry, couldn't resist.
While I'm anti helmet compulsion, for anything more than a trip to the local shops I reckon you're not being real clever leaving your noggin unprotected. As as for being too hot wearing one in Adelaide at the moment, I struggle to see how when I'm buying a cap to keep my head warmer because it's so cold.
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Re: Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
Postby WestcoastPete » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:06 pm
It is illegal to ride on the road without a helmet in the NT, but it is legal to ride without a helmet if you stick to the footpath/shared path. In practice, no one gets pulled up for not wearing a helmet so a lot of people don't.
Still, I'd wear one. I'd also avoid the footpath.
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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:19 pm
Sorry Trickle - I too missed the facetiousness in your original post..trickle wrote:Geez chill outhosko wrote:http://www.nt.gov.au/transport/ntroads/ ... Safety.pdf
I think this should answer your question better than the last poster.
What I should have done was use an emoticon and linked to the mango riding zealot and his one sided opinions on the matter.
Spot on.trickle wrote:Whats more, if your excuse for not wanting to wear a helmet is that you get too hot... take up chess.
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Postby bardynt » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:51 am
i think if you are worried about heat and sweating you should be in air conditioned car instead
i always wear my helmet has saved me a few time esp when have hit pot hole and me flying over handle bars head first towards the ground
i suppose depends really if i see someone who has fallen off bike with head injuries but cant help but laugh and think wear a helmet you idiot
i suppose you right not to wear one but don't expect much sympathy from me if hurt you re head when you crash
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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:08 pm
Those silly hats with back-curtain that primary school uniforms sometimes have are not so silly after all.
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Postby Gabon » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:08 am
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Postby arkle » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:14 pm
I come from England where wearing a helmet is optional, but I can appreciate that riding on roads busy with motorised vehicles, like cars and trucks, is slightly safer if your noggin is protected.
Having said that, Darwin is one of the quietest cities in the world, and there are bike paths everywhere, and it's extremely hot and humid, so common sense dictates that helmet wearing should be optional. In Sydney CBD no for sure, but in Darwin? Clearly the NT government thinks the same way, since it's the only state in Australia that doesn't have a mandatory helmet law for adult riders.
And what's this guff about wearing a helmet or hiding inside an air-conditioned car? Grow up. Why should cycling automatically incorporate unnecessary discomfort in a tropical climate. There's always some wowser trying to tell you how to live your life.
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Postby bardynt » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:29 pm
i personally wear a helmet in this weather rather have it protected. im going to sweat whether i wear a helmet or not
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Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
Postby hosko » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:33 am
Helmet was toast but it took the impact, not his head. Had he not been wearing one, damage may have been fatal.
Pretty simple choice really.
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Postby trailgumby » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:12 pm
I love it when people use that wowser word. You know you've got them - they've got no real leg to stand on in either logic or evidence to support their position and have to resort to throwing epithets. Same as in the gambling debatearkle wrote:There's always some wowser trying to tell you how to live your life.
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Postby arkle » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:38 pm
Heh heh that's the first time I've used the word "wowser" in my whole life! To be honest I'm not even sure what it means - I've seen other people using it and I assumed it meant someone who exaggerates or over-dramatises something for the sake of it; or someone who tries to stop other people having fun in their own way. I could be wrongtrailgumby wrote:I love it when people use that wowser word. You know you've got them - they've got no real leg to stand on in either logic or evidence to support their position and have to resort to throwing epithets. Same as in the gambling debatearkle wrote:There's always some wowser trying to tell you how to live your life.
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Re: Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
Postby Capsyze » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:05 pm
arkle wrote:
And what's this guff about wearing a helmet or hiding inside an air-conditioned car? Grow up. Why should cycling automatically incorporate unnecessary discomfort in a tropical climate. There's always some wowser trying to tell you how to live your life.
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Indeed, there's always a kill-joy who wants to force their laws down the throats of everyone... Like "stopping at red lights"... Bah... "A Metre Matters"... Pffftttt....
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Postby trailgumby » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:22 pm
No, you pretty much got it right.arkle wrote:Heh heh that's the first time I've used the word "wowser" in my whole life! To be honest I'm not even sure what it means - I've seen other people using it and I assumed it meant someone who exaggerates or over-dramatises something for the sake of it; or someone who tries to stop other people having fun in their own way. I could be wrongtrailgumby wrote:I love it when people use that wowser word. You know you've got them - they've got no real leg to stand on in either logic or evidence to support their position and have to resort to throwing epithets. Same as in the gambling debatearkle wrote:There's always some wowser trying to tell you how to live your life.
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It's usually used by those with a self-destructive bent, or more particularly those with a vested interest in exploiting those with a self destructuve bent, to characterise those trying to limit the societal damage as "fun police". To wit, against those trying to limit the plainly visible destruction caused by unrestricted access to alcohol, tobacco and gambling activity.
We seem to like smashing ourselves with vices and think it a virtue - our convict heritage
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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:13 pm
I'd put nanny state in the same class. Relatives of Godmin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law)trailgumby wrote:I love it when people use that wowser word. You know you've got them - they've got no real leg to stand on in either logic or evidence to support their position and have to resort to throwing epithets. Same as in the gambling debatearkle wrote:There's always some wowser trying to tell you how to live your life.
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Postby Capsyze » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:20 pm
Actually, you've invoked Godwin's Law incorrectly.. Here, let me do it properly...ColinOldnCranky wrote:I'd put nanny state in the same class. Relatives of Godmin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law)trailgumby wrote:I love it when people use that wowser word. You know you've got them - they've got no real leg to stand on in either logic or evidence to support their position and have to resort to throwing epithets. Same as in the gambling debatearkle wrote:There's always some wowser trying to tell you how to live your life.
arkle
Wearing a helmet is a pointless excercise, forcing a class of citizen to wear something that cost money yet does nothing...
What next? It's like forcing the Jews to wear the Star of David..
There. Godwin's has been invoked.
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Re: Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
Postby ldrcycles » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:33 pm
hosko wrote:http://www.nt.gov.au/transport/ntroads/ ... Safety.pdf
I think this should answer your question better than the last poster.
OK, i'm confused, i thought helmets were compulsory in every state. And the link lists under 'traffic infringements', 'riding without helmet securely fastened'. So are helmets mandatory in the territory or not?arkle wrote: since it's the only state in Australia that doesn't have a mandatory helmet law for adult riders.
arkle
And just as an aside, the link also lists 'riding bicycle incorrectly' as an infringement, what the heck does that mean? 'Dangerous' or 'Reckless' riding i could understand but 'incorrect'?
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Re: Bringing my bike to Darwin - do I need a helmet?
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:33 pm
Only
Want
Social
Evils
Remedied
Acronym for the slogan of the temperance movement in early 20th century Australia.
Nowadays used as a descriptive for anyone who doesn't mind people enjoying themselves as long as it is by the (usually restrictive to the point of why bother) rules set by said wowser.
As Gumby observed, also used as a pejorative by groups who profit from the human misery caused by the fools who take their enjoyment to excess.
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