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Re: STCC

Postby mcdurdin » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:13 am

master6 wrote:There is a club in town to cater for people with an Elite grade licence. Have you considered attending one of Hobart Wheelers meetings to help them get racing organised?
I don't have the time or interest to take on any more commitments. And I've not heard of any interest from Hobart Wheelers in doing road racing again.

I must say that the idea that the only "REAL BIKE RIDER" is a racer is pretty silly. Barry has chosen not to race, why is that such a problem for you?
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Re: STCC

Postby master6 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:26 am

Barry does race.
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Re: STCC

Postby doggatas » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:29 am

Sorry guys, didn't mean to start an e-war.

Assumption is the mother of all Fck ups. I assumed that the dropping of the V meant it was now an open club, I was wrong. Can't join for another 3 years. : (

I'll check out the Wheelers, join up there, and race the purple shaded races on the Vets calendar - sorted.

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Re: STCC

Postby mcdurdin » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:43 am

master6 wrote:I notice you have not got time to.......would that include marshalling?
I did a marshalling stint as that was a part of being a member of STCC -- if I didn't turn up for that then I would be letting people down. But that meant taking time out of other activities. I can't justify that for racing myself.
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Re: STCC

Postby mcdurdin » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:51 am

doggatas wrote:Sorry guys, didn't mean to start an e-war.
Dogga you gotta be careful mate, any time you jab an ants nest you've got expect the ICBMs to start flying. E-wars make forums fun... No offense intended to master6 et al and I would love to race if only I had the time... :) If I get some spare time over the Christmas break I'd like to come out for the Wednesday Richmond Bakery ride once (that one's a race, isn't it?)
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Re: STCC

Postby master6 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:37 am

Ok :D lets call a truce.....until.....next time! :D

I did a ride to Murdunna yesterday, however this mornings sunny session by the computer got my heart rate higher than the ride :D :D :D :D

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Re: STCC

Postby skull » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:23 pm

There is some shenanigans going on here...

No editing posts after the fact! :D

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Re: STCC

Postby master6 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:34 pm

skull wrote:There is some shenanigans going on here...

:D
What on earth are you talking about skull? Do you want to spoil good tactics?
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Re: STCC

Postby RobRollin » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:09 pm

master6 wrote: OK. Stop riding pretend races with the other girls and get out to STCC and show us what you can do. :D :D :D :D :D
What Master6 is trying to say is that, Dome, or any other social ride is not a race and should never be considered a race.


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Re: STCC

Postby master6 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:12 pm

doggatas wrote:Sorry guys, didn't mean to start an e-war.

Assumption is the mother of all Fck ups. I assumed that the dropping of the V meant it was now an open club, I was wrong. Can't join for another 3 years. : (

I'll check out the Wheelers, join up there, and race the purple shaded races on the Vets calendar - sorted.
Your assumption is understandable dogga. For a change I am going to be polite, sincere, and even helpful.
Lets look at this thing positively.
When we look at the STCC race calendar for the second half of 2011, we find 13 days "open to all riders". Days restricted to masters licence holders are 12.
If you are interested in competing outside southern Tasmania you will find a number of events in the north, listed on the Cycling Tasmania site. This will give some more opportunities for you, however some will clash with STCC "open" events I expect, so it is not as good as "add all STCC opens to all CT events.
As STCC racing concludes in early December, it is probably reasonable to add at least 3 CT events to the STCC 13 and say that there are 16 opportunities to race in 24 weeks(five and a half months).

If we were in a formal debate, and I was on the side of people in your position, I would argue that most people find various weekends when they have other obligations, and therefore it is unlikely that the 16 events I suggest are open to you, will in fact fit in with your life.
You have already arrived at the "purple shaded races" solution.
What else could you do:-
One option might be to gather a group of likeminded elite grade licence holders, and ask the STCC to run a separate event for you on "non open" days. An advantage for STCC might be an offer by such a group to provide some marshalls from time to time.
Another option might be for the same like minded group to join Hobart wheelers (you need a licence anyway) and persuade them to run some road racing.

Best wishes
Jeff

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Re: STCC

Postby RobRollin » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:14 pm

master6 wrote: Another option might be for the same like minded group to join Hobart wheelers (you need a licence anyway) and persuade them to run some road racing.

Best wishes
Jeff
As the Wheelers have all the timing equipment why this does not happen I don't know, especially for the young riders, 14yrs and upwards. And have the parents involved to Marshall.
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Re: STCC

Postby BarryTas » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:46 pm

Dogga, if you turn up, i am pretty sure they will let you race


and yes i will be doing some STCC races, just just boring TT's

after the week i just had, i am now down to "race weight" :(
when do we stop for coffee???

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Re: STCC

Postby skull » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:12 pm

Being race weight is good, but losing power is not.

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Re: STCC

Postby BarryTas » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:19 pm

the wife recons that i must has "dissed" a guy called Terry, :roll: :roll: :roll: ahh dad jokes
when do we stop for coffee???

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Re: STCC

Postby RobRollin » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:01 pm

Ill be racing on Sunday...and I just had a hair cut :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re: STCC

Postby BarryTas » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:00 am

STCC training ride this Sunday 22/02/2012 (AT) 9am at the Taph
when do we stop for coffee???

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Re: STCC

Postby master6 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:00 pm

BarryTas wrote:STCC training ride this Sunday 22/02/2012 (AT) 9am at the Taph
:D Barry...be careful. The mouse is perilously close to taking the cheese :o

:D :D

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Re: STCC

Postby BarryTas » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:05 pm

master6 wrote:
BarryTas wrote:STCC training ride this Sunday 22/02/2012 (AT) 9am at the Taph
:D Barry...be careful. The mouse is perilously close to taking the cheese :o

:D :D

i may be riding up Mt Welli, undecided as yet
when do we stop for coffee???

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Re: STCC

Postby master6 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:11 pm

BarryTas wrote:
master6 wrote:
BarryTas wrote:STCC training ride this Sunday 22/02/2012 (AT) 9am at the Taph
:D Barry...be careful. The mouse is perilously close to taking the cheese :o

:D :D

i may be riding up Mt Welli, undecided as yet
My :D big :D mouth :D

I have spooked the mouse :twisted:

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Re: STCC

Postby skull » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:47 pm

Do both. Do the STCC ride and finish off with a summit climb

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Re: STCC

Postby master6 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:50 pm

skull wrote:Do both. Do the STCC ride and finish off with a summit climb
skull,
do you have the membership application for Barry prepared? His character is..............well.............I'll second him :D

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Re: STCC

Postby BarryTas » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:08 pm

skull wrote:Do both. Do the STCC ride and finish off with a summit climb

i would bbut the STCC ride starts (AT) 9am so it would be a loooond day, i'd sooner leave early and get back early :)
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Re: STCC

Postby skull » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:16 pm

BarryTas wrote:
i would bbut the STCC ride starts (AT) 9am so it would be a loooond day, i'd sooner leave early and get back early :)

It is daylight by 5am Mt Welli first then join the bunch, mind you that is a rather late start for a bunch ride. I would prefer starting at 6 or 7 riding all finished by mid morning.

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Re: STCC

Postby Giant Pete » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:09 pm

As a keen cyclist with family commitments on a single wage (mostly), I find that $220 for a Masters 3 licence a tad excessive.
I understand there are certain costs that need to be covered, of course.
It's no wonder cycling is branded elitist.
Does this take care of insurance, or is that an extra cost - which I haven't done yet :oops:

This won't stop me riding in whatever "challenges" are open to me though :)

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Re: STCC

Postby master6 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:40 pm

Giant Pete wrote:As a keen cyclist with family commitments on a single wage (mostly), I find that $220 for a Masters 3 licence a tad excessive.
I understand there are certain costs that need to be covered, of course.
It's no wonder cycling is branded elitist.
Does this take care of insurance, or is that an extra cost - which I haven't done yet :oops:

This won't stop me riding in whatever "challenges" are open to me though :)
Is it $220? I have yet to renew my CA licence, however I believe the fee for masters 3 to 7 is $150.

I have been involved in Water Skiing and Kart Racing, and find cycling to be cheap by comparison. Entry fees for race events in Tasmania are bargain basement.
Have you looked at the cost of the various "challenges", or "fun rides" as I call them. I think that you would get a lot more "event" activity via a CA licence and race entry fees, than you would get via "fun rides" for a given annual cost.

As an example close to home, look at the Mt Wellington Challenge.
It was a cycle club event, and the entry was $20. Last year it was taken away from the cycling clubs, and the entry fee went to $40.

While you agonise over cycling costs, have a look at the Dome Coffee rides from Sandy Bay, and the Wednesday morning Richmond Bakery rides. Best value for money in cycling. Free :D

I appreciate your concern; it is always difficult spending a limited family budget on one member of the family. My wife is constantly amased by the parcels delivered to our home :D
best wishes ,
Jeff

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