Yep, so they could show some crappy program. Poor form really. If it were a program that was mindblowingly important it would make sense but them switching to their crap program was akin to cutting off the Border-Gavasktar trophy presentation. Didn't see Greipel being awarded his jersey either.norbs wrote:Did Andrew Voss cut Matt White off at the end? Seemed to end in an awful hurry.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:15 pm
On par for Nein, anything to fit one more ad in.CommuRider wrote:Yep, so they could show some crappy program. Poor form really. If it were a program that was mindblowingly important it would make sense but them switching to their crap program was akin to cutting off the Border-Gavasktar trophy presentation. Didn't see Greipel being awarded his jersey either.norbs wrote:Did Andrew Voss cut Matt White off at the end? Seemed to end in an awful hurry.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby open roader » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:26 pm
Loved hearing Ligget and Sherwen again but get them back with SBS please.............
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby Chuck » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:20 pm
Why do they have to justify their opinion to you ? It's their opinion.sogood wrote:Which sporting event coverage have you been impressed and happy with?}SkOrPn--7 wrote:All I can say is that coverage 9 did of the TDU was abysmal and pathetic they should be ashamed.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby sogood » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:55 pm
Not to me, but to the forum. Unless one considers the forum as a one way soap box?Chuck wrote:Why do they have to justify their opinion to you ? It's their opinion.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby zozza » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:32 pm
Just my opinion
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby gdt » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:27 am
The basic problem is EventsSA, the state-owned tourist promotion body. They've obviously gone for exposure over quality in choosing Channel Nine. I think events have shown that this wasnt the best choice. Interesting in that they didn't even get any worthwhile contra, such as the continuation of the Postcards program -- which was a major driver of within-state tourism.
I dont think EventsSA learned the lesson of the TDU coverage on ABC 891 Local Radio. Despite covering the TDU from the start it is only within the last two years that their sports commentators have shown any real understanding of the sport. And now that they do the coverage is much, much better. It's quite possible that Nine won't ascend the learning curve for the entire duration of the three year contract (they only get another two chances to get it right). In short, EventsSA shouldn't have gone with a channel with no prior experience of cycling, because in doing so they've compromised coverage of their event.
Also interesting is the lack of defence of Nine's coverage by its management. When the most senior person championing your program is a reporter then your program has no profile within the organisation (which also explains 11:30pm timeslots). I get the feling that the Channel Nine staff have been surprised at the quality of the event they have purchased, but I doubt if they can sell that message within Nine.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby skull » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:24 am
Basically trying to capture the market so no one else can use it. usual business actions.
From what coverage I did see it seemed to be ok.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby grasshopper » Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:03 pm
Footballers on a cycling broadcast was very 9, but credit to the big one for saying he rides a bike. That stuff probably helps. I agree that not showing the Greipel presentation was very poor form - both parochial and disrespectful, but they were clearly up against it with time. With more respect for the fans or the sport they might have extended a minute or two (depending on the satellite), but 9 doesn't value cycling so they wouldn't care. Or perhaps it was a stuffup by the producer or organisers or anchor; still less than professional, whatever the cause. You can only hope the international broadcasters and Lotto's sponsors put a word in, to the effect Say What? And no highlights that I could see? No excuse for talking over the anthem though.
They will try to do better next year (and hoping for a breach of contract is a waste of time imo). But as an investment in the future, I think it's worth trying to get TDU added to the anti-siphoning list (which is all boof sports and the olympics), and this performance flagged under the anti-hoarding provisions of the broadcasting rules to assist in that process. From DBCDE:
At the very least, it would be good to have it on the radar of Conroy's office. The Codes are so narrow that there doesn't seem to a lot of point complaining to Free TV Aust (a precursor to escalating to ACMA), although FTVA does have to summarise complaints to ACMA. But every little bit helps I guess.While the government's current anti-siphoning provisions aim to ensure that as many Australians as possible have the opportunity to watch significant events on free-to-air television, these provisions do not deal with live coverage of listed events.
The anti-hoarding provisions require commercial television licensees who acquire the right to televise a designated event, but who do not propose to fully use that right, to offer the unused portion to the ABC and SBS for a nominal charge within a specified offer time. The national broadcasters must also offer unused portions of rights to each other.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby }SkOrPn--7 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:40 pm
Glad you enjoyed it and that's all that matters but for the TDU it's a far cry from what SBS would present to the viewers and the amount of coverage given.sogood wrote:Which sporting event coverage have you been impressed and happy with? Personally I thought it was pretty decent. At the same time, it's always hard to please everyone... Or rather impossible.}SkOrPn--7 wrote:All I can say is that coverage 9 did of the TDU was abysmal and pathetic they should be ashamed.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby sogood » Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:46 pm
Classic!zozza wrote:I didn't like the coverage and didn't watch it.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby briztoon » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:20 pm
How do you know you didn't like the coverage if you didn't watch it?zozza wrote:I didn't like the coverage and didn't watch it.
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TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby RonK » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:52 pm
He won't. Eastlake has Alzheimer's, dementia and emphysema. I'm not even sure he is still alive. I've never been an Eastlake fan, but continued jokes about him show about as much taste as Abbott's crack about the sunken cruise liner.CommuRider wrote:No Eastlake yet. Fingers crossed he doesn't grace the audio.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby timbo » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:58 pm
briztoon wrote:How do you know you didn't like the coverage if you didn't watch it?zozza wrote:I didn't like the coverage and didn't watch it.
It's quite easy. There are lots of horrible green (really healthy) vege's that I can't stand even though I've probably never eaten them.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby MichaelB » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:41 pm
Whilst there is little doubt that a cycling based team (SBS) would have done better, it wasn't that long ago that we got NOTHING.
Now at least, thanks to SBS, and hopefully Nein, we will continue to get more.
Nein only just got the rights, so maybe next year will be better, given the stick they have received, and the potential 'help' from ASO.
I'm sometimes a glass half full guy.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby philip » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:04 pm
... lol, how do you come up with this stuff, are you an english teacher?Oxford wrote:over thinking it? maybe. how does it relate to this discussion? Nein are siphoning a sport
Ok give me a go too...
Maybe the glass (your expectations) is too big. Get a glass half the size and it will be full.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby Daccordi Rider » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:14 pm
The glass once broken could be used to sort out troublemakers though. So even empty it is useful. If Warnie was around we could fix up the bits of his head the surgeon missed.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby CommuRider » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:48 pm
I wasn't joking about him. Andrew Voss of C9 mentioned on the first day of the TdU highlights tht he was going to commentate the weekend's live footage which never eventuated. Send an email to Voss/C9 why he brought Eastlake's name into the broadcast. *shrugs*RonK wrote:He won't. Eastlake has Alzheimer's, dementia and emphysema. I'm not even sure he is still alive. I've never been an Eastlake fan, but continued jokes about him show about as much taste as Abbott's crack about the sunken cruise liner.CommuRider wrote:No Eastlake yet. Fingers crossed he doesn't grace the audio.
Is Voss a work experience boy?
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby grasshopper » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:52 pm
I was riding with someone yesterday who said he's something to do with rugby.CommuRider wrote:Is Voss a work experience boy?
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby CommuRider » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:03 pm
Should be with C7 then and succeed Gordon Bray. Must have been bought by C9 for the disastrous RWC coverage. If Kerry Packer were still alive today he would be pretty appalled with the self-destruction of the channel. Karl Stefanovic wouldn't have lasted a minute.grasshopper wrote:I was riding with someone yesterday who said he's something to do with rugby.CommuRider wrote:Is Voss a work experience boy?
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby The_Eggman » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:58 pm
He calls Rugby League, as opposed to Rugby. Makes a good fist of it.grasshopper wrote:I was riding with someone yesterday who said he's something to do with rugby.CommuRider wrote:Is Voss a work experience boy?
As much as I like a good Channel 9 bash, I must say I've found this over the top. The coverage and commentary, while not ideal, wasn't that bad either.
And there's no doubt getting mainstream FTA coverage is a positive thing for the sport and the event. It's a bit like your favourite secret restaurant getting a great write up in the Sydney Morning Herald or your favourite band you used to watch down the local pub enjoying mainstream success. In a way it's sad, but it's a big and positive step
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby foo on patrol » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:48 pm
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
Postby zozza » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:59 pm
(Edited for Yoda)sogood wrote:Classic!zozza wrote:I didn't like the schedule on CH9 so I didn't watch it.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage
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Zozza! I'll have to use that as my avatar.zozza wrote:
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