Buying a new fixed / SS

The place for fixies and other rides without gears

Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby sandberry » Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:49 pm

I'm looking to buy a new single speed / fixed bike, and a quality one at that. The chrome Bianchi Pistas have really caught my eye and I'm considering purchasing one to replace my current second-hand SS roadie. Below's the backstory if you're interested.

I started riding seriously just a number of months ago when I bought a second-hand SS off of a bloke who'd built it up to find it was too small. It turned out to be a great deal at $375, with solid brakes, levers, crankset, headset, and the frame had a great powder coating on it, along with bullhorn bars which I've loved and a great seat. However, the frame is unfortunately just a bit too large for me, and while I've put in many kms with this bike, I've realised I really do want a more appropriately sized frame, and preferably a nice new one. As I've been looking however, it's become increasingly apparent that with the cost of a new frame, I'd probably be better off getting a complete bike for it's frame. So I figured, maybe it's about time I got a bit more serious and put down some good money for a quality single speed, and work my current bike into a commuter / consider selling parts, something like that.
Image


Aesthetically I really like the pistas, both with regards to the geometry and also the chrome, and from what I've read they're a solid frame to work with. But I thought I'd see if there were any opinions here that might help with my decision.
User avatar
sandberry
 
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:29 am

by BNA » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:41 pm

BNA
 

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:41 pm

I'd be looking at a Fuji classic track also. much better price point and a proven history with most owners/punters.

either or i suppose, both are a step up from a conversion anyway.
BRLVR.v2
 
Posts: 725
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:33 pm

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby sandberry » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:53 pm

BRLVR.v2 wrote:I'd be looking at a Fuji classic track also. much better price point and a proven history with most owners/punters.

either or i suppose, both are a step up from a conversion anyway.


Thanks for the heads up, always good to have a few options to compare
User avatar
sandberry
 
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:29 am

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby slidetaker » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:34 pm

how much is a new Chrome Bianchi Pistas go for these days?
slidetaker
 
Posts: 139
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:07 pm

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby sandberry » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:58 pm

slidetaker wrote:how much is a new Chrome Bianchi Pistas go for these days?


I haven't inquired at any shops yet, but I actually started considering it recently however because there seems to have been a promotional campaign with some Peroni branded pistas coming up on eBay for fairly intriguing prices which got me thinking. That said, I'm almost at the stage now where I think I'd rather splurge a little and get the real deal - if I decide on the pista that is.
User avatar
sandberry
 
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:29 am

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby aeroslave » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:52 am

Pistas are nice.
User avatar
aeroslave
 
Posts: 1783
Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:04 am

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby slidetaker » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:08 pm

For the price of a Italian brand Pista, assuming $800-900, it is fair bit of money to play with.

Obviously depends how much time and efforts you are able to put out.

But I think it is quite possible to build something more unique and better quality. I am guessing and people around here can provide more info

Basic CroMo frame with track dropout. ($150)
Tange Prestige Chrome fork. ($250)
Wheelsets ($300)

and extra $200 to ebay for secondhand bar, stems, saddle etc....
slidetaker
 
Posts: 139
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:07 pm

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby sandberry » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:08 pm

Unfortunately finding a new, simple frame with track ends has
been harder than I thought it would be. The advice I've been given from the bike shop's I've visited has been that I'd be better off getting a complete bike (and possibly selling the extra components) because a frame
on it's own can't easily be had for less than, say $500.
Beyond the cheap Chinese track frames on eBay, which I would probably give a shot if I wasn't after a more old school rounded tubing, I haven't had much luck so far.

At a Bianchi dealer today I had a chat, and it seems
the chrome might not be available - waiting to hear back from them as they check
with their rep. The via condotti and the milk and coffee frames are stocked however, so I might consider one of them. Those in stock range from around $1,200 to $1,500
User avatar
sandberry
 
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:29 am

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby slidetaker » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:39 pm

Even $1200 sounds really steep for a single/fixed bike.

If you consider the oversea market, track frame with track end should not cost more than $400-$500 including int' shipping. They usually come with a decent fork (saving of a couple of hundreds). But you need to wait for a while for your preferred size and style. That gives you like $500 for wheelsets and tyres. Got to be a better wheelsets than the stock Bianchi Pista....

Is the Bianchi Pista lugged or welded? Is it still from Italy these days?
slidetaker
 
Posts: 139
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:07 pm

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby familyguy » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:47 pm

$1200 sounds steep for a Bianchi Pista. Nice? Maybe. Worth that? Maybe not, not to me, but its not for me, izzit?

For $1200 you could go to either of these guys and see what they've got:
http://njs-keirin.blogspot.com/
http://tracksupermarket.com/

Jim
User avatar
familyguy
 
Posts: 4900
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:30 pm
Location: Cromer, NSW

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby kreyziest » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:13 am

there're a few second hand bianchi pista on ebay at the moment, check em out they seem to be in a good condition. 8)
User avatar
kreyziest
 
Posts: 96
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:19 pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby sandberry » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:36 am

Yeah a $1200 price tag is quite significant. I think they're now manufactured in the US - but I haven't checked this.
Thanks for the links familyguy, both definetely look like they're worth investigating.

The pistas on ebay seem to be Peroni branded promotional models - I'm still doing a bit of research to see how their parts match up to the originals.
User avatar
sandberry
 
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:29 am

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:45 am

sandberry wrote:Yeah a $1200 price tag is quite significant. I think they're now manufactured in the US - but I haven't checked this.
Thanks for the links familyguy, both definetely look like they're worth investigating.

The pistas on ebay seem to be Peroni branded promotional models - I'm still doing a bit of research to see how their parts match up to the originals.


Frames are chiawanese.
BRLVR.v2
 
Posts: 725
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:33 pm

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby familyguy » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:04 pm

sandberry wrote:Yeah a $1200 price tag is quite significant. I think they're now manufactured in the US - but I haven't checked this.
Thanks for the links familyguy, both definetely look like they're worth investigating.

The pistas on ebay seem to be Peroni branded promotional models - I'm still doing a bit of research to see how their parts match up to the originals.


Just did an ebay search and came up with this one: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Limited-Edit ... 696wt_1016

ad wrote:This bicycle retails for $1249 for a normal 2011 Pista Steel Bianchi Bicycle. (Ref http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/bicycles ... /100293485 )
As this is a limited edition Peroni branded bicycle I could ask for more but I will start the action price at $800.00
I believe this to be very fair


I believe this to be very over-rated. Not worth $800, let alone $1200. Unless you really, really want a Bianchi. $1200 better spent someplace else, unless you can source a bare frame.

BRLVR.v2 wrote:Frames are chiawanese.


This. Taiwan is the likely place.

Jim
User avatar
familyguy
 
Posts: 4900
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:30 pm
Location: Cromer, NSW

Re: Buying a new fixed / SS

Postby sandberry » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:36 pm

familyguy wrote:
sandberry wrote:Yeah a $1200 price tag is quite significant. I think they're now manufactured in the US - but I haven't checked this.
Thanks for the links familyguy, both definetely look like they're worth investigating.

The pistas on ebay seem to be Peroni branded promotional models - I'm still doing a bit of research to see how their parts match up to the originals.


Just did an ebay search and came up with this one: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Limited-Edit ... 696wt_1016

ad wrote:This bicycle retails for $1249 for a normal 2011 Pista Steel Bianchi Bicycle. (Ref http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/bicycles ... /100293485 )
As this is a limited edition Peroni branded bicycle I could ask for more but I will start the action price at $800.00
I believe this to be very fair


I believe this to be very over-rated. Not worth $800, let alone $1200. Unless you really, really want a Bianchi. $1200 better spent someplace else, unless you can source a bare frame.

BRLVR.v2 wrote:Frames are chiawanese.


This. Taiwan is the likely place.

Jim


Haha, that particular line, "As this is a limited edition Peroni branded bicycle I could ask for more but I will start the action price at $800.00", I found rather funny. There are a few on gumtree and ebay, none have sold that I've seen so far, so I'm in no rush to put down $800 for that. Yeah, I think $1200 when I'm only interested in the frame itself is a bit steep.
I think i'll be keeping my eye out for a good deal on a second-hand, and used, one, while looking at alternative frames.
User avatar
sandberry
 
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:29 am


Return to Fixed Gear/ Single Speed

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users



Support BNA
Click for online shops
Torpedo 7 Torpedo7 AU
Ground Effect Ground Effect NZ
Chain Reaction Cycles CRC UK
Wiggle Wiggle UK
Cycling Express Cycling Express
Ebay Ebay AU
ProBikeKit ProBikeKit UK
Evans Cycles Evans Cycles UK
JensonUSA Jenson USA
JensonUSA Competitive Cyclist