Hydration? What are you using?
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Re: Hydration? What are you using?
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Re: Hydration? What are you using?
Postby Petee » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:06 pm
For example water hydrates you for longer and it fills you up quicker, energy drinks such as gatorade hydrate you very fast but not for long and doesn't fill you up much, so you end up drinking a decent amount of it. They also have quite a bit of unnecessary artificial crap in them :/.
I just use water.
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Postby greyhoundtom » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:25 pm
SPAM Nutrition FactsMulger bill wrote:Anybody know if SPAM is an effective rehydration agent?
Amount Per Serving
Calories 180
Total Fat 16g
Saturated Fat 6g
Cholesterol 40mg
Sodium 790mg
Total Carbohydrates 1g
Dietary Fiber 0g
Sugars 0g
Protein 7g
This product is GLUTEN FREE
More likely to just make you more thirsty.
But then drinking more water because the SPAM you just ate made you thirsty will re-hydrate the body, so in a roundabout way you could say that SPAM was at least an aid to re-hydration.
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Postby Comedian » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:55 am
They don't have carbs included but I find it easier to manage if I get those requirements from gels - it's easier to count.
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Postby snark » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:03 am
What's wrong with getting it at the brew shop? It's all the same stuff.durilium wrote:I just mix up weak orange cordial, i find if my water has a bit if taste i drink more. Looking into adding some maltodextrin to it soon as i find out where to buy the stuff other than the brew shop.
My local Coles and K-Mart used to stock the Coopers stuff, but stopped in the last six months. The home brew shop close by has half a kilo for $4, which I think was about that I paid for it at the supermarket.
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Re: Hydration? What are you using?
Postby Nikolai » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:49 pm
Bad idea. Since sweat is hypotonic, ingesting salt (i.e. those foods you listed above) will increase salt's concentration in the body. Not something you want. Put it another way, sweating alone, without replenishing anything, increases salt's concentration because the water to salt ratio of sweat is greater than that of plasma (which is why we feel thirsty and need water to get the original balance back). If you ingest salt while its concentration in plasma already on the rise, you'll be in for some trouble.scirocco wrote:Water is good, but you need to ensure salt levels are kept up whether by bacon sandwich, salted nuts or more scientific method.
Minute amounts are fine to facilitate water absorption but deliberately jacking up salt concentration is stupid.
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Postby foo on patrol » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:13 pm
He talks a lot of sense and no nonsense but some will find it confronting
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Re: Hydration? What are you using?
Postby Nikolai » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:44 pm
By the way, you can substitute "salt" with "electrolytes", nothing changes. Oh and those numbers are made up of course, only to illustrate the point.
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Postby PawPaw » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:13 pm
He's been researching hydration status for years. His words are gospel to me.
Recently he created his own commercial electrolyte. I've never heard him say anything that contradicts the latest sports science in relation to his new business venture.
There's been a shift in sports hydration to upping the concentration of electrolytes more closely to sweat. Most sports drinks you buy from supermarkets have about 1/3 to 1/2.
Below is a recent video where Allen discusses hydration and energy intake. There's some gems in it. Listen carefully, several times.
As I've indicated previously, I make my own electrolyte which has the following per litre
sodium 850mg
potassium 170mg
calcium 85mg
magnesium 25mg
You can make this yourself by putting 3 grams (2/3 teaspoon) of the following mix into a litre bottle
Blend the following into a fine powder
sea salt 190 grams (sodium source)
diet rite salt 65 grams (sodium and potassium source)
rennies antacid tablets 30 tablets (calcium and magnesium source)
these three products are commonly available from Coles and Woolies.
These concentrations are similar to endurance sports specific hydration formulas like Nunns, Clif, Shotz, eload.
Allen Lim's product has even more electrolytes.
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Re: Hydration? What are you using?
Postby PawPaw » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:53 pm
The above chart is hypothetical in that all sweat losses do not come from plasma, rather, all of the body's water stores. In fact, water is shunted from all tissue into the blood vessels to maintain plasma volume. However, understand clearly this leaves brain, nerve, muscle, and digestive organs severely functionally compromised.
Sweat losses of 1% bodyweight (2% of total body water) see the body in a state of mild dehydration, in which athletic and cognitive function are significantly compromised; athletic function by up to 30%.
Cognitive and physiological state continues to deteriorate rapidly until death which usually happens with water losses of 6% bodyweight (15% total body water).
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Re: Hydration? What are you using?
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed May 02, 2012 6:32 pm
I'm with you Sandberry. I do a lot of quite serious distances all year round including over the hot Perth summer and mostly all I use is water. Occasionally I will have a drink of unsweetened full-strength squeezed orange juice. Frankly I give more attention to fixing the unpleasant taste that some water bottles give.sandberry wrote:I commute approx. 8kms each way, with occasional rides of longer distances, almost always just use water.
When I feel like something a little more, I use Procari Sweat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocari_Sweat) in powder-form, adding a little bit to my water - it's common in Asia, where I first found it while swimming competitively.
There may be something to this. I understand that ingesting sufficient quantities of sports drinks during events to replace all fluid loss is dangerous (as is just water) because it has less electrlyte levels than plasma or inside cells or something. (Causes swelling of cells including those in the brain - nasty.)PawPaw wrote:There's been a shift in sports hydration to upping the concentration of electrolytes more closely to sweat. Most sports drinks you buy from supermarkets have about 1/3 to 1/2.
If anyone feels like trawling through it, this might be of interest" http://osmolality.com/pdf/SportsHydration07B.pdf
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