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Postby dan_the_man » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:07 pm
i am going to fall off on the way home tonight i just know it
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Postby McPete » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:02 pm
Toeclips, or I usually call them footcages are an extension bolted onto the front of the pedal that lace back through the pedal, and put one's feet in just the right place. The serious riders do them up quite tight, so they can't remove their feet, but I leave mine loose, so I get the utillity of a normal, open pedal, some of the efficency of cleats and the luxury of normal shoes!
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Postby LuckyPierre » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:11 pm
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Postby dan_the_man » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:14 pm
if i dont reply tomorrow it means i've gone through an intersection and have been cleaned up
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Postby dan_the_man » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:32 pm
down i went. was grass near by so i fell towards that.
then i nearly hit a car when i couldnt stop at an intersection. the lady screamed her head of at me
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Postby dan_the_man » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:12 pm
yeah i think the clips r too tight atm the moment will have to take it bak to the bike shop to fix :/
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Postby tinstaafl » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:15 am
Clip ons are far less dangerous than toe cages.
You can back the tension on the clip ons right back and they still work quite well. As soon as you loosten toe cages you lose virtually all benefit other than foot position.
The luxury of street shoes baffles me for riding a bike. The soft soles hurt my feet and the poor foot position hurts my legs.
I have come a buster quite a few times from stuck toe cages or even worse is the trick of pulling the foot out only to have the toe catch a strap.
You will notice that all of your initial problems are with ultra low speed falls and this only takes a few rides to iron out.
You did well with the shoes and I'm sure that you'll have a ball if you persevere.
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Postby Mulger bill » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:41 am
Been there, done that. It's all good fun learning a new skill, don't sweat it. Your foot will soon find the easy way in and out of the clips. One tip for entry though... DON'T LOOK at the pedal.
You'll soon learn when to ride clipped in and when to be loose on the pedal, your stack rate will drop and your confidence will soar. I'm sure within a few months you'll be saying the same sort of stuff to newbies
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Postby MJF » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:10 am
For normal road use, you should plan ahead and unclip well before you come to a stop. I also unclip for slow maneuvering as it is much harder to maintain balance when you can't move your feet - the danger here is that I sometimes end up clipped in again without realising it. So far, I haven't come off once... but I had a few close calls in the first week.
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Postby tinstaafl » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:10 am
You're doing well.MJF wrote:So far, I haven't come off once... but I had a few close calls in the first week.
I found out that they do release if you pull up hard enough when me and a FuckWitDriverhad a dead heat. I went straight up and out of my clips which are standard Shimano.
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Postby europa » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:52 am
I ride with spd pedals. They are set reasonably loose. My attitude is that they will stay that way until I have unexpected clipouts. As it is, I've probably saved a couple of falls when I've been able to wrench out of the clip in an emergency. For normal riding, there is no need to have them super tight, just 'tight enough' to do the job.
The thing about spd pedals is that when your foot is out of the pedal, they rotate with the crank so when the crank returns to where you clipped out, the pedal is in the upright position. So, if you learn to clipout at one point (I do it at the top of the stroke) and return your foot to the pedal at that same point (the top of the stroke for me), the pedal will always be the right way up and it's just a matter of farting about for the next ten kilometres trying to get that damned cleat into that miniscule flamin' clip
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Postby dan_the_man » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:29 pm
I rode to work today and clipped out well in advance. As you said. And i did find it helped alot. I didnt fall off this time...
I did find riding to be much easier with these shoes. is that about right?
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Postby commi » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:41 pm
Would it be much of a hassle have to find the right side of the pedal without looking down?
This is the system I'm thinking of getting soon for my Avanti Blade Sport.
I just bought a trip computer and I'm going to record a few times just wearing normal shoes and pedal, then see if I improve using clipless.
P.S. I've had a mountain bike for about 5 years and I never took much notice about cadence or riding position e.g. wear foot should be pedal
Since I got the Blade I've been really conscious of placing my feet on the right place on the pedal. But I've found that my left foot starting to hurt the last couple of days. I wonder what it is? I haven't done any other excersise like walking in that time, pretty much just riding.
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Postby dan_the_man » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:48 pm
i got the avanti sprint. just a basic racing bike
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Postby moosterbounce » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:05 pm
That was so valuable that I haven't fallen...yet!! I also make sure I clip out when approaching an intersection in plenty of time which helps too.
One thing that I did find though is that I'm a bit different. Instead of twisting my ankle "out" away from the bike to clip out, I actually turn in. I make sure i only do this at either the top or bottom of the stroke otherwise I will go AOT!! With a history of playing hockey on synthetic surfaces, I have dodgey knees, ankles, and shins and found this movement much more natural.
No-one in my LBS has EVER seen anyone clip out this way before!!
Moo...
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Postby dan_the_man » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:12 pm
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Postby europa » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:18 pm
commi wrote:Would it be much of a hassle have to find the right side of the pedal without looking down?
europa wrote:The thing about spd pedals is that when your foot is out of the pedal, they rotate with the crank so when the crank returns to where you clipped out, the pedal is in the upright position. So, if you learn to clipout at one point (I do it at the top of the stroke) and return your foot to the pedal at that same point (the top of the stroke for me), the pedal will always be the right way up and it's just a matter of farting about for the next ten kilometres trying to get that damned cleat into that miniscule flamin' clip
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Postby europa » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:54 pm
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Postby MJF » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:15 pm
I started off with the M324's then ditched them for the M520's so I don't have to try and flip the pedal over to clip in. The M520's can also be found for about half to two-thirds the price of the M324's - so get the M520's unless you really like being able to ride in normal shoes.
Re tinstaafl and pulling straight out - I think you will find you have multi release mode cleats instead of the single release mode cleats. The M324's come with multi-release as standard, the M520's come with single release mode.
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