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Postby Xplora » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:47 pm
Postby Mugglechops » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:08 pm
Postby queequeg » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:14 pm
AndrewBurns wrote:Maybe somebody knows if my ideal commuter bike is already out there or if parts of it exist (primarily the frame)?
My ideal commuter bike:
- Has drop handlebars
- Has disk brakes
- Weighs less than 10kg including rack and mudguards
- Has a rack with rack-top bag and mudguards
- Conventional gearing probably preferred assuming IGH's would be too heavy/not work with drop-bar brifters
- 700c x 25 minimum
As some back story I'm currently commuting on my carbon road bike which weigh's 8.5kg and has 25c tyres. I love how fast it is, I love the drop bars and it's light enough to just barely get up the big hill on the way to work (up to 20% grade). I don't love that it doesn't have mudguards or a rack because that means the groupo gets covered in dirt in the rain and I have to carry a backpack. I also have a super crappy steel hybrid which does have a rack and mudguards but I find the flat bar upright nature of it too slow and at around 18kg all up it's just too heavy to make it up the hill.
I'm not really looking to buy at this point but I'm certainly keeping an eye out for something that ticks all the boxes, especially if it doesn't cost the earth (such as a custom Ti jobby might).
Postby Mugglechops » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:19 pm
Postby Xplora » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:32 pm
Mugglechops wrote:What size tyres and what width mudguards are you running?
I think its time to get some for mine.
Postby Mugglechops » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:45 pm
Postby waramatt » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:37 pm
Postby PB12IN » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:48 pm
queequeg wrote:
My commuter. As pictured, weight comes in at 12.2kg, even with a Ti frame and a Ti rack that weighs almost nothing.
Most of the weight goes into the Disc Brakes and the Tyres (which are 740g each!). SRAM Apex group eats 25% hills for breakfast, even with loaded panniers.
Postby queequeg » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:13 pm
Mugglechops wrote:What size tyres and what width mudguards are you running?
I think its time to get some for mine.
Postby queequeg » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:18 pm
PB12IN wrote:queequeg wrote:
My commuter. As pictured, weight comes in at 12.2kg, even with a Ti frame and a Ti rack that weighs almost nothing.
Most of the weight goes into the Disc Brakes and the Tyres (which are 740g each!). SRAM Apex group eats 25% hills for breakfast, even with loaded panniers.
Ok, I want this bike. but then I get nervous about parking a $400 bike at southport, Don't think I would ba game to risk something like that.
ok I'm not certain of this (especially with carbon) but with an alloy couldn't you just get the mounts for a rack installed? shouldn't be to hard to drill a hole and fit mounts.
Postby PB12IN » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:45 am
queequeg wrote:Thankfully I have secure parking at work!
Postby Xplora » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:53 am
Postby Mugglechops » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:25 am
queequeg wrote:Mugglechops wrote:What size tyres and what width mudguards are you running?
I think its time to get some for mine.
Marathon Plus 700x28c with SKS P45 Mudguards. Heaps of space, could go up to around 37mm with the P45s.
Postby PB12IN » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:17 pm
Xplora wrote:Scared of parking a 400 dollar bike?! Typo?
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:40 pm
Postby Xplora » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:08 pm
PB12IN wrote:Xplora wrote:Scared of parking a 400 dollar bike?! Typo?
I don't know about you, but to me $400 is a fair bit of cash, we can't all afford expensive bikes. If it goes missing I will have to save for a while to be able to replace it.
If that ammount of money means so little to you how about i send you my address and you send me $400.
so how much should personal property be worth before someone should not want it stolen?
Postby AndrewBurns » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:38 pm
Postby PB12IN » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:36 pm
Xplora wrote:PB12IN wrote:Xplora wrote:Scared of parking a 400 dollar bike?! Typo?
I don't know about you, but to me $400 is a fair bit of cash, we can't all afford expensive bikes. If it goes missing I will have to save for a while to be able to replace it.
If that ammount of money means so little to you how about i send you my address and you send me $400.
so how much should personal property be worth before someone should not want it stolen?
Don't get me wrong, I can't afford to lose any bikes, and I had to sell a car to get my Honky Inc - my point is simply that if you can't afford to take a controlled, measured risk with a 400 dollar bike, then you might need to give up cycle commuting and catch a train. Or walk... you get my point. I am fortunate to have reasonable parking facilities at work, and I intend on locking up my bike in the garage at home soon too. But I simply wouldn't do it if I could not expect the Honk to be there every day.
Postby Xplora » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:48 pm
PB12IN wrote:So becasue I don't want my bike stolen I shouldn't ride it. I don't want my car stolen either, better not drive.
Postby Mugglechops » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:36 am
AndrewBurns wrote:On looking at the options around the Boardman team CX from Wiggle looks like the winner so far: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/boardman-road-team-cx/
Little cheaper than the Merida CX bike (even factoring in shipping, including current specials) with a mix of Apex and 105 compared to mostly 105, seems to have slightly better wheels though and a carbon fork. Not so crash hot about the BB5 disk brakes, they seem to get universally bad reviews when compared to the BB7's. Boardman also do a CX bike with the same frame and fork but BB7 brakes and SRAM Force groupo but it's $350 more and while that probably makes it a better deal I don't think I'd pay that much for a commuter bike.
Thoughts? I really don't need to buy another bike right now *repeat ad-nauseum*
Postby thomashouseman » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:56 am
Xplora wrote: I bought the Honky Inc expecting BB7s and it came with Shimano discs.
Postby Xplora » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:32 am
Postby PB12IN » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:44 pm
Xplora wrote:Paranoia ruins lives.
Postby AndrewBurns » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:02 pm
Postby Xplora » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:08 pm
PB12IN wrote:Xplora wrote:Paranoia ruins lives.
Wowyou should be a politician, you went from having a go at me to concern about my mental state.
bravo!
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