If you get hit by a car is it safer to have clips or noclip?
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If you get hit by a car is it safer to have clips or noclip?
Postby newbikeorupgrade » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:41 pm
You can even jump over cars...
No nasty faceplants...
???
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Postby sogood » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:52 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby ft_critical » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:13 pm
Cleats might then be the least of your concerns.newbikeorupgrade wrote:I've been hit a few times
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Postby ozdavo » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:29 pm
I've had a car pull out on me, while commuting in London, nowhere to go, slammed n the brakes (mtb with slicks & disc's) and somehow unclipped while going over the handlebars and landed on my feet. I don't remember unclipping, I just know I did it as a reflex.
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Postby Apple » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:36 pm
You made me laugh,ft_critical wrote:Cleats might then be the least of your concerns.newbikeorupgrade wrote:I've been hit a few times
I needed that today
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Postby trailgumby » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:58 pm
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Postby Ozkaban » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:03 pm
EDIT: I also don't think having my shoes clipped in contributed to the accident at all. I was going over regardless...
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Postby Ozkaban » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:05 pm
+lotstrailgumby wrote:I respectfully suggest it is safer not to get hit by cars.
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Postby Cinder » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:36 pm
IMO spend less time worrying about clip ins vs no clip ins and start looking at ways to not get hit by cars.
FWIW, no clip ins is better for sure.
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Postby damhooligan » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:54 pm
SCHIJNVEILIGHEID !!
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Postby Ozkaban » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:27 pm
Only if the tyre logos line up with the valves perfectly... Otherwise it can be disastrousdamhooligan wrote:I think the safest and most important thing is to make sure your valves rotate in sync with each other.
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Postby damhooligan » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:38 pm
Fair point, lets not forget that !!Ozkaban wrote:Only if the tyre logos line up with the valves perfectly... Otherwise it can be disastrousdamhooligan wrote:I think the safest and most important thing is to make sure your valves rotate in sync with each other.
SCHIJNVEILIGHEID !!
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Postby Mulger bill » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:01 pm
damhooligan wrote:Fair point, lets not forget that !!Ozkaban wrote:Only if the tyre logos line up with the valves perfectly... Otherwise it can be disastrousdamhooligan wrote:I think the safest and most important thing is to make sure your valves rotate in sync with each other.
It will all end in tears if the wheelbuilder didn't line the hub logo up with the valve holes.
Back on topic...
To date, I have been fortunate enough to only be struck by a motorised vehicle twice. Once by a luggage tow in the service tunnel at work, I stayed on and upright but needed a new crankset and had the mother of all bruises on the right thigh. The other time was a bullybus that refused to believe that yielding to a vehicle already on a roundabout AND approaching from his right was his legal and moral duty, fortunately, I saw it coming in time and had managed to stop in time to receive the merest brush on my front tyre by his off side rear door.
I have no interest in a repeat of either situation in the name of scientific curiosity.
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Postby KenGS » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:55 pm
Helmets! Bells! Rego!
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Postby wombatK » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:29 pm
And don't be surprised about that.KenGS wrote:I know for a fact that if you come off at 30km/h you unclip automatically
The first clipless pedals were made by Look - who based them on the design of their ski bindings.
You would not worry for one millisecond about coming out of your ski bindings in a crash. Fact is,
that's what they were designed to do - so that you didn't break a leg by being stuck in your skis
as you tumbled down the mountain.
Look saw that cyclists faced a similar situation - a need for robust connection with the pedal, and
a need for automatic quick release in emergency situations. And adapted the ski binding fittings
for cyclists.
So it should be not surprise that you unclip in any collision or over-the-bars scenario.
Clip-stacks occur at very low speed because the twisting forces on the pedal are low - mostly
because a brain-fade prevents the right commands going to the leg. If something hits the bike,
no brain power is needed to get the pedals twisting enough (relative to leg) that your leg will
be released.
Being hit a few times is not a a record to be proud of. You might need to think about ways you can improve
your safety on the road. Clip v's unclipped could be the least of your worries.
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Postby il padrone » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:46 am
+1trailgumby wrote:I respectfully suggest it is safer not to get hit by cars.
Avoid such unplanned 'offs' as much as possible.
Only three collisions with cars in the past 35 years. One was the classic - 'chasing parked cars' . Another was a fender glance by an L-plater - no fall or damage. The other was a straight-out T-bone by a right-turner. I skidded, side on into her left passenger door. The clips released on impact and the bike rebounded, amazingly about 3-4 metres into the air.
Clipless pedals are the least of your worries, but I find they give me more control over my bike.
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Postby waramatt » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:45 pm
I came off on a wet bend at 36 km/h and stayed clipped in.KenGS wrote:I know for a fact that if you come off at 30km/h you unclip automatically
At the time and even later I didn't give consideration to the various merits of clipped vs not. I did however wish that I had started the rides with the tyre valves, rim and tyre logos synchronised.
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Postby iMad » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:49 pm
I can assure you that you will never come off if tyre valves, rim and tyre logos are all synchronised. It's against the most fundamental laws of physics.waramatt wrote:I came off on a wet bend at 36 km/h and stayed clipped in.KenGS wrote:I know for a fact that if you come off at 30km/h you unclip automatically
At the time and even later I didn't give consideration to the various merits of clipped vs not. I did however wish that I had started the rides with the tyre valves, rim and tyre logos synchronised.
Those that have crashed and those that are about to.
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Postby waramatt » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:01 pm
Sliding along a wet road on your back whilst clipped into a bike checking for oncoming vehicles is a surreal experience, but not one I recommend.
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