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Postby uncle arthur » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:59 am
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Postby sogood » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:58 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby WestcoastPete » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:07 pm
Postby sumgy » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:08 pm
WestcoastPete wrote:I can see where the confusion comes from.
I don't think it's appropriate to claim the lane unilaterally in every situation. I think it's important for all road users to be courteous. I will claim the lane if it improves my safety. Doing so clears up any confusion that might otherwise exist about my intended actions, but I won't do it just because I can. If I can safely ride on the left to allow other vehicles to pass, I will.
The confusion here exists in the decision making; "should I be claiming the lane now?", "I should have claimed the lane.", "yes, I am traffic and have a right to be here (in the middle of the lane), but I could safely be riding over on the left so that the vehicle behind me can safely overtake me, so should I?"
That's why we'll continue to have these discussions.
Anecdotally, we could probably be a little more assertive in this regard, but I don't want to be a prick about it.
Postby find_bruce » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:54 pm
Postby DaveOZ » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:17 pm
Postby KonaCommuter » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:47 pm
DaveOZ wrote:I thought the cycle lane was the bit in the middle, between those two yellow lines??
Postby RonK » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:00 pm
DaveOZ wrote:I thought the cycle lane was the bit in the middle, between those two yellow lines??
Postby Marto » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:08 pm
Postby il padrone » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:21 pm
sumgy wrote:WestcoastPete wrote:We also have these discussions as there is unilateral confusion as to what the law actually states.
Postby London Boy » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:15 pm
WestcoastPete wrote:I can see where the confusion comes from.
I don't think it's appropriate to claim the lane unilaterally in every situation. I think it's important for all road users to be courteous. I will claim the lane if it improves my safety. Doing so clears up any confusion that might otherwise exist about my intended actions, but I won't do it just because I can. If I can safely ride on the left to allow other vehicles to pass, I will.
Postby sumgy » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:01 am
il padrone wrote:sumgy wrote:We also have these discussions as there is unilateral confusion as to what the law actually states.[/quote}
On single-lane roads (ie. one lane each way) keep as far left as practicable - your interpretation of what constitutes impracticable.
On multi-lane roads, no such requirement ie. you may claim lane-space as you see fit. And it may be any lane (except keep to the left lane on roads with >80kmh speed limits in Victoria).
Pretty simple really, but drivers just can't seem to get their head around it. It's in the road rules even
Postby il padrone » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:39 am
sumgy wrote:I know what you believe they state but that is not how I (or others I have spoken to) read it.
129 Keeping to the far left side of a road
(1) A driver on a road (except a multi-lane road) must drive as near as practicable to the far left side of the road.
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