Brisbane 3 new road tunnels, why not 3 new train tunnels
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Brisbane 3 new road tunnels, why not 3 new train tunnels
Postby mikesbytes » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:43 pm
Is Brisbane going to end up like Sydney, with heavily over used roads?
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/article ... 86371.html
The question comes to mind, why not build more train lines instead?
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/article ... 86371.html
The question comes to mind, why not build more train lines instead?
If the R-1 rule is broken, what happens to N+1?
Postby MountGower » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:22 pm
Your forgetting where your population actually lives, Mike. Our roads are like that already.Is Brisbane going to end up like Sydney, with heavily over used roads?
The only thing that democracy has given the world is corruption. Nice ideas are nice, but where's the back hander coming from? That's the real question.The question comes to mind, why not build more train lines instead?
I was born here and have always lived here. This city has gone from a great load of crown land with the odd house and everything any other city had to offer and is now a filthy hole run by self interested masonic, subjective pagan halfwhits. Sort of like the people that elected them.
I don't mean to jump on you for putting forward logical questions, but if you lived here and saw this beautiful place turn in to the pile of crap that it is today before your very eyes, you'd understand my frustration.
The only thing that lies ahead for Brisbane is the pit.
Postby MountGower » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:27 pm
Forget all of that, although I believe it.
I'm currently working with an absolute tripper and a humanitarian who sprukes rights all day long.
I either need a ly down or a bike ride.
I'm currently working with an absolute tripper and a humanitarian who sprukes rights all day long.
I either need a ly down or a bike ride.
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Postby Kalgrm » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:44 pm
Why not 3 new train tunnels?
Because people who vote drive cars (mostly) and think the government is doing them a favour by promising to build better underground car parks - er - road tunnels.
If they announced 3 new train tunnels, I'd be the one asking why not build one decent bike transportation system for 1/20 the cost?
MG, why not tell us what you really think? Lovely rant - you made my night.
Cheers,
Graeme
Because people who vote drive cars (mostly) and think the government is doing them a favour by promising to build better underground car parks - er - road tunnels.
If they announced 3 new train tunnels, I'd be the one asking why not build one decent bike transportation system for 1/20 the cost?
MG, why not tell us what you really think? Lovely rant - you made my night.
Cheers,
Graeme
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Postby beauyboy » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:51 pm
The offical reason why the North South Bypass tunnel is not a combined Road rail tunnel is because the gradients on the tunnels are to steep. Personally I find these arguements are a load of S**T.
That said Brisbane does need a new Rail tunnel throught the CBD because the CBD is reaching capacity during peak hour.
Donald
That said Brisbane does need a new Rail tunnel throught the CBD because the CBD is reaching capacity during peak hour.
Donald
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Postby Mulger bill » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:52 am
I dunno 'bout that Donald, what sorta grade are they talking? There's a lot of safety issues to consider with tunnels too.
For that matter, what suburban rollingstock are you using up there?
Cheers
Shaun
For that matter, what suburban rollingstock are you using up there?
Cheers
Shaun
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Postby beauyboy » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:06 pm
We use 25KV electric multiple units, with 2000hp distrobuted over eight traction motors per 3 car sets.
Donald
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BCC give us some more bikeways fore safe travel!!!!
Upgrade the NCL now QR!!!!!!
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Upgrade the NCL now QR!!!!!!
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Postby Kalgrm » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:17 pm
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Postby Mulger bill » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:07 pm
Thanks Donald, should be able to handle most suburban grades. Mind you, the citylink tunnels are too steep for our sparks. Hmmm, wonder when the next critical mass tunnel run is...mmm speed.
Shaun
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...whatever the road rules, self-preservation is the absolute priority for a cyclist when mixing it with motorised traffic.
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Postby beauyboy » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:28 am
What did no-one notice the QR 39 class electric loco pic or my signature saying "upgrade the NCL now QR" the NCL being the North Coast line.
I know but i was in a rush as i am in now.
Donald
I know but i was in a rush as i am in now.
Donald
BCC give us some more bikeways fore safe travel!!!!
Upgrade the NCL now QR!!!!!!
http://nakedcyclistbrissy.blogspot.com/
My views do not represent any organisation I may be apart of unless otherwise stated
Upgrade the NCL now QR!!!!!!
http://nakedcyclistbrissy.blogspot.com/
My views do not represent any organisation I may be apart of unless otherwise stated
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