Video Camera who uses one?

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Crawf » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:51 pm

That's rather disappointing, i'm expecting my #16 any day now and was hoping for at least 50min at best res, which will cover each commute. Hopefully some runtime and recharges will see it improve?
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby dampier » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:23 pm

The Video frame size refers to the resolution of the video, the higher the frame size, more detail, the greater the battery drain. I found that using the lower resolution gives another fifteen minutes of battery life and the file sizes are about halved. I have ordered a external UPS battery for 16.99, it should last for 200 min.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby master6 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:39 pm

Another run has seen an increase from 37.02 to 40mins 31 seconds. Steady improvement from 25 minutes on first run.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Aushiker » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:29 pm

For those that have recently brought a #16 camera and who are having short battery run times did you buy your cameras from the ebay seller eletoponline365 or someone else?

I have managed to melt my #11 by leaving it on the car's dash today in error so looking to get a replacement. I thought I might try the #16.

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby master6 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:35 pm

Aushiker wrote:For those that have recently brought a #16 camera and who are having short battery run times did you buy your cameras from the ebay seller eletoponline365 or someone else?

I have managed to melt my #11 by leaving it on the car's dash today in error so looking to get a replacement. I thought I might try the #16.

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Bought mine from eletoponline365.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby AUbicycles » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:25 pm

GraemeL wrote:Is there any particular reason you need to use an Iphone?
If you intend to buy a mount for it you may find that you can buy a Jumbo or #16 for the same price as the mount.
If you are dead set on using a phone I have an idea for a DIY mount and will try to make it or at least do up a drawing of it if you want.
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:) reason being is that I have one and assume the the HD video quality is better than a cheap camera.
I am after short clips but in a nice resolution so have been looking into this.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby RonK » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:31 am

I'm not sure if this information has been posted before, but this morning I received the latest email specials from Jenson USA which inludes some interesting products from K-Edge.

K-Edge is offering high-quality handlebar and saddle rail mounts for the Go-Pro, and is developing mounts for the Contour.

I'm tempted to order the GO BIG Pro Handlebar Mount.

Another interesting product under development is Ki2 - components to adapt Di2 to your MTB (or flat bar, I presume).
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby norbs » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:48 am

RonK wrote:I'm not sure if this information has been posted before, but this morning I received the latest email specials from Jenson USA which inludes some interesting products from K-Edge.

K-Edge is offering high-quality handlebar and saddle rail mounts for the Go-Pro, and is developing mounts for the Contour.

I'm tempted to order the GO BIG Pro Handlebar Mount.

Another interesting product under development is Ki2 - components to adapt Di2 to your MTB (or flat bar, I presume).



They look good, but they are pricey!
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby CommuRider » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:03 pm

If you do @RonK, can you let me know how saddle/handlebar mounts fair? Might get the saddle but want someone to try it first :-)
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby RonK » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:31 pm

CommuRider wrote:If you do @RonK, can you let me know how saddle/handlebar mounts fair? Might get the saddle but want someone to try it first :-)

NP.

Here's a clip.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Aushiker » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:44 pm

RonK wrote:Here's a clip.


Pity about the music. It does not allow one to judge how much noise is transmitted through the mounts :(

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby master6 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:10 pm

master6 wrote:Another run has seen an increase from 37.02 to 40mins 31 seconds. Steady improvement from 25 minutes on first run.


An update to my comment above. I charged battery last night, and ran for 34min 48 sec today before camera stopped due to flat battery. Todays ride was on a course bluemetal sealed road, with lots of vibrations.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby InTheWoods » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:51 pm

Just for general interest re the jumbo batteries, I have the #11 and its been dropped a couple of times and in use for about 4 months. It ran for 61 minutes this morning before I ran out of space on my SD card (forgot to clean it up), battery didn't go flat.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Aushiker » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:57 pm

Inwood wrote:Just for general interest re the jumbo batteries, I have the #11 and its been dropped a couple of times and in use for about 4 months. It ran for 61 minutes this morning before I ran out of space on my SD card (forgot to clean it up), battery didn't go flat.


Keep in mind the #11 comes with two different battery options. I have the one with the bigger battery which gives me or did before I melted it, 1.5 hours of run time.

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby GraemeL » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:21 am

The Jumbo #11 is still the best bang for the buck IMHO, it has a longer battery life than the #16.

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby GraemeL » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:02 am

master6 wrote:Image

37 minutes on the above settings. I have the recording indicator "ON".

I have not experimented with different "video frame size". In fact I dont understand what this means. My guess is that it "narrows" the view.?? Would this increase running time?


The frame size is the resolution, you should keep it set to 1280x720, this is HD. The Bit Rate will make a diiference to the file size, keep it at 7mbs.
Loop Recording keeps recording 5 minutes videos, and when the memory card is full, camera will delete the oldest files and record new videos. Warning: loop recording will delete the oldest video files. Please back up your important video files before using this option. Deleted files are not recoverable.

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby master6 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:07 am

GraemeL wrote:The frame size is the resolution, you should keep it set to 1280x720, this is HD. The Bit Rate will make a diiference to the file size, keep it at 7mbs.

Graeme

I have changed it to 640 X 480 last night, and about to head out on a ride now, so will report back later today.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Marto » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:49 am

GraemeL wrote:The Jumbo #11 is still the best bang for the buck IMHO, it has a longer battery life than the #16.

Graeme


Oh, and I just ordered two #16 cams :| I would need more than the reported 37 ish minutes. I'll have to look at the external battery options. The #16 has a plug-in battery connection rather than a soldered-on battery connection, so you might be able to install a higher capacity internal battery. I could always just swap cameras 30 minutes into a ride...

Dropping the resolution to 640 x 480 might mean number plates are harder to read at a distance. May as well use a #3.

Hey master6, did you try to charge your cam with a good quality USB cable?

Wouldn't mind a Jumbo #16 :D
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby RonK » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:48 am

Marto wrote:Oh, and I just ordered two #16 cams :| I would need more than the reported 37 ish minutes. I'll have to look at the external battery options. The #16 has a plug-in battery connection rather than a soldered-on battery connection, so you might be able to install a higher capacity internal battery.

I doubt it - the #16 is tiny. I think the developer's close association with RC model aircraft hobbyists has encouraged him to focus on miniaturisation at the expense of battery capacity.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Crawf » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:29 am

I'm still waiting for my #16 after 25 days! I'm hoping Murphy's law will see that it turns up on my desk as soon as I type this...
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Aushiker » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:18 pm

GraemeL wrote:The Jumbo #11 is still the best bang for the buck IMHO, it has a longer battery life than the #16.


Which is while I brought a replacement #11 with the 1.5 hour battery. Couldn't see the point in the #16 with its poor battery life.

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby master6 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:59 pm

master6 wrote:
GraemeL wrote:The frame size is the resolution, you should keep it set to 1280x720, this is HD. The Bit Rate will make a diiference to the file size, keep it at 7mbs.

Graeme

I have changed it to 640 X 480 last night, and about to head out on a ride now, so will report back later today.



37min 28 sec was run time this morning with 640X 480 setting. This was no difference in battery time to other settings, and reduced ability to read number plates.
I bought this camera to try it, with the intent in the back of my mind to buy extra battery capacity if I was satisfied with the picture. I am very satisfied with all aspects except battery life, and will buy the extra battery (or two), as I would like to run for 3 to 4 hours.
My question to the knowledgeable is, knowing that the battery in the camera will last 35 to 40 minutes, and presumably knowing the capacity of the auxilliary battery, can anyone predict the likely run time with the additional battery connected?
(is it as simple as knowing that your car fuel tank of 50 litres will take you 500km, therefore an extra tank of 100 litres will give you a total range of 1500km)?

I have been using the supplied cable to charge and download.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby GraemeL » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:33 am

master6 wrote:
master6 wrote:My question to the knowledgeable is, knowing that the battery in the camera will last 35 to 40 minutes, and presumably knowing the capacity of the auxilliary battery, can anyone predict the likely run time with the additional battery connected?
(is it as simple as knowing that your car fuel tank of 50 litres will take you 500km, therefore an extra tank of 100 litres will give you a total range of 1500km)?

I have been using the supplied cable to charge and download.


Check out page 1 of this thread, you will see an external battery listed there, using that one you should get about 2 - 2.5 hrs. Thats assuming the camera can record while connected to it.

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby cp123 » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:59 am

Graham or Ox or Aushiker etc (apologies if i've missed any other "good" camera people)... could i please ask your advice please if you don't mind...


I've been saving for the last few yonks to buy a set of cameras and was thinking about buying 2 go pro hero 2s (ie one for front and one for back). Yes, they're not cheap but your reviews sound good so i was wanting to get a good one that'll last for yonks - plus be suitable for other things (eg shove in the car when i use that). But then reading that you all buy the Jumbo HD808 as best bang for your buck, should i just get 2 of them? I would like to be able to record sound (if there are any discussions with motorists) although i get that nothing sound wise might be super clear anyway.

i probably would've liked a helmet mount but expect i would've put a go pro on the handlebars underneath (or use a chest mount) so i don't look like a space alien with a big go pro on my helmet.

I could manage to buy 2 jumbos now, but can't afford 2 go pros with all their bells and whistles. I have been saving for a while but i can't spend close to $600 to be honest. is the jumbo likely to be able to do what i think i want (eg produce good evidence if the need ever arises), but the potential to use it for other things as well if i want to.

I was thinking that Maybe 2 go pros is overkill and i don't really need them. I just like the waterproof and indestructable sound of them, as well as good quality. Should I keep saving (about 2/3rds of the way there), or just go out and buy the jumbos instead.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby CommuRider » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:17 am

@cp123

I have bought two GoPros - one for the front, one for the back. I can't complain with either. Waterproofing is great, sound is great. Knowing what I have is the best in the market, I don't have buyer's remorse. I can't say anything about the Jumbos nor compare with them but last month dented my bank account so keep on saving. No regrets because I was pleased with my first GoPro and they've gone through the wet weather test and they've not failed me. I did think buying 2 was overkill but have tried both, they're visible and as they give me a near 360 degree vision of the landscape - front, back, left, right side of potential incidents - then they're worth it for the safety of my family and future evidence later.

In all, with the bells and whistles, I paid nearly $900 for both as I bought an LCD screen for one GoPro as well. +$60 for 2 x 16GB SD cards. So nearly $1K.

If you can only afford the Jumbos then go for them but hope you have no regrets with them later. As others have advised, just buy one GoPro and buy a Jumbo for the front vision (rear vision is much more important) for now until you can afford to buy your 2nd GoPro.
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