Anzac Bridge - Accident & Warning FYI
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Anzac Bridge - Accident & Warning FYI
Postby Sydguy » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:57 pm
Friday, yesterday, a guy was down on Anzac bridge. Roadie commuter, seen him around. Unsure how he came off but he was hurt. Lady at work went past after me and saw ambulance in attendance, I am guessing a leg was hurt as he did not move from where he went down, which was on the up hill part as you head into town.
Hope he is fine.
Second, another commuter who caught up to me after a chat to the NSW cycle cops on Pyrmont bridge also on Friday, this time on way home had some news. The cops are going to target the Anzac Bridge, which is a good thing. It is about 1,000,000 times more dangerous than Pyrmont Bridge.
They will target people who are going too fast and close to peds and people who do not slow down at the western end as they turn right onto Victoria Rd.
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Anzac Bridge - Accident & Warning FYI
Postby sogood » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:06 am
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Re: Anzac Bridge - Accident & Warning FYI
Postby jimsheedy » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:33 am
Also How can the cops charge someone for going too fast on their bike? How do they prove it?
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Postby zero » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:39 pm
Police are trained to assess speeds. They shouldn't actually try hand out speeding tickets though, as there is no speed limit marked. If general R-R area rules apply then its 50 at the least.jimsheedy wrote:I hope they also target the dingbats walking 4 abreast across the whole pathway, headphones in place floating along in a private world of their own self entitlement.
Also How can the cops charge someone for going too fast on their bike? How do they prove it?
Should be no problem to target speeding by handing out some negligent/reckless/furious riding tickets. ie rider going past peds at 50, or going between peds and oncoming traffic = neg riding in my book.
Hopefully someone tells them which way the traffic goes, as they'll be embarrased by traffic direction if they try it in the morning
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Postby jimsheedy » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:15 pm
Really. Hopefully it's a bit more thorough than the training they recieve to tell the difference between a tazer and a gun.zero wrote:Police are trained to assess speeds.jimsheedy wrote:I hope they also target the dingbats walking 4 abreast across the whole pathway, headphones in place floating along in a private world of their own self entitlement.
Also How can the cops charge someone for going too fast on their bike? How do they prove it?
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Postby sogood » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:41 pm
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Re: Anzac Bridge - Accident & Warning FYI
Postby mikesbytes » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:26 pm
What's the legal pedestrian passing clearance?
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Postby sogood » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:39 pm
1) It's a shared path and many cyclists don't have a speedometer.mikesbytes wrote:What's the speed limit on Anzac bridge?
What's the legal pedestrian passing clearance?
2) If it's not measurable in practice, it's a moot point.
Common sense needed.
In the back of my mind 30km/h has been branded for shared paths.
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Postby stickgc » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:47 pm
Just be sensible and considerate of others and I'm sure you'll be fine
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Postby mikesbytes » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:10 pm
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Postby sogood » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:01 pm
Only if the condition demands it or you want to ride slow and stay well away from an obnoxious person.mikesbytes wrote:So I could be doing 8kph and give the ped a wide berth....
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Postby Mulger bill » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:22 pm
And they'll still try to dive under your wheels. Then blame you because you failed to notice the skullwires and you should have known that skullwires reduce their wearers IQ by 50% more than the associated loss of situational awareness.mikesbytes wrote:So I could be doing 8kph and give the ped a wide berth....
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Postby sogood » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:49 pm
If I start putting down the power just after the two speed bumps going east and can hit 30km/h for a short period on the upward section (windless or favourable wind mornings), then there'll be a lot more fitter and stronger riders who can and will do better. As for the downhill, 30km/h is but coasting and a bit of pedal action will easily hit 45+km/h.jimsheedy wrote:I call bull !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! on anyone who reckons they ride or have seen someone ride tha AB at 30kph
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Postby jimsheedy » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:56 pm
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Postby sogood » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:19 pm
I am saying it is. On the downhill sections, 30+km/h is reached in mass numbers every day.jimsheedy wrote:I didn't say it can't be done. Im saying it isn't
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Postby zero » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:27 pm
Most people would be braking from 30 for the S bend imo.sogood wrote:I am saying it is. On the downhill sections, 30+km/h is reached in mass numbers every day.jimsheedy wrote:I didn't say it can't be done. Im saying it isn't
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Postby sogood » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:48 am
Absolutely. But the downhill section to the statue is 1/2 the length of the bridge and 30+km/h is easily achieved. And then the section after the S bend going west is another potent high speed section where 40+km/h is easily achievable.zero wrote:Most people would be braking from 30 for the S bend imo.
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Re: Anzac Bridge - Accident & Warning FYI
Postby black4tress » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:36 am
I agree with sogood. You can hit 30kms up AB and I have seen it done plenty of times but east is not where the danger is. Going down and westerly, you can hit +40 quite easily and it can get dangerous from the S bend and even further down.....I know cause I do it regularly along with many others - I'm going to have to tone it down cause its an accident waiting to happen.sogood wrote:I am saying it is. On the downhill sections, 30+km/h is reached in mass numbers every day.jimsheedy wrote:I didn't say it can't be done. Im saying it isn't
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Postby Sydguy » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:26 pm
Cyclists, myself included, get a bit immune or used to passing peds at speed, we should slow down given most of us are in favour of safe passing laws.
It is really annoying not having decent infrastructure, the bridge is not that old, I wonder why they never though to include proper separated bike and ped lanes.
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Postby sogood » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:29 pm
One word - Money!Sydguy wrote:It is really annoying not having decent infrastructure, the bridge is not that old, I wonder why they never though to include proper separated bike and ped lanes.
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Re: Anzac Bridge - Accident & Warning FYI
Postby wombatK » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:57 pm
A bicycle lane is way way cheaper to build than a vehicular lane that has to support all kinds of heavy vehicles.sogood wrote: One word - Money!
So money isn't the explanation. In one word, it's priorities, but if allowed two, it'd be wrong priorities
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