2012 Milan-San Remo
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby toolonglegs » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:53 pm
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby Chris249 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:55 pm
I have tried this before but had no luck, but it provided low-fi vid last night. Has anyone else had much luck with the CF links?
Great win for GreenEdge!
I was lucky enough to be unable to sleep and therefore logged on with about 30ks to go. Only problem was that when I tried to go to bed later it turned out that the doorknob had fallen off, so I ended up sleeping on the couch. Even worse, I got snubbed by the dog who gave up sharing after about 5 minutes.
I have strong suspicions that my wife unscrewed the door handle when she realised I was watching road racing....ever since she got her cyclocross bike she's been uninterested in anything that doesn't have mud and beer!
PS- I seem to remember that Nibali made the original break that first Gerrans and then Fabian bridged to, so he may not have been a wheelsucker. Gerrans spent a lot of time on the wheel, but with memory with about 2k to go he moved left, perhaps as if to take the lead, but Cancellara looked at him and kept on going.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby Parrott » Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:22 pm
Got to feel for Cancellara though he was the one who kept them off the front. Nice to see Gerrans acknowledge Cancellara in his post race interview.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby norbs » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:19 am
Chris249 wrote:FYI for anyone who didn't catch it, the Cycling Fans website had a link to Sporza that worked for free live coverage, complete with Dutch commentary.
I have tried this before but had no luck, but it provided low-fi vid last night. Has anyone else had much luck with the CF links?
Great win for GreenEdge!
I was lucky enough to be unable to sleep and therefore logged on with about 30ks to go. Only problem was that when I tried to go to bed later it turned out that the doorknob had fallen off, so I ended up sleeping on the couch. Even worse, I got snubbed by the dog who gave up sharing after about 5 minutes.
I have strong suspicions that my wife unscrewed the door handle when she realised I was watching road racing....ever since she got her cyclocross bike she's been uninterested in anything that doesn't have mud and beer!
PS- I seem to remember that Nibali made the original break that first Gerrans and then Fabian bridged to, so he may not have been a wheelsucker. Gerrans spent a lot of time on the wheel, but with memory with about 2k to go he moved left, perhaps as if to take the lead, but Cancellara looked at him and kept on going.
Try steephill.tv next time. I watched it with English commentary. Harmon and Kelly.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby Chuck » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:16 am
I'll have a look at that next time, cheers.norbs wrote: Try steephill.tv next time. I watched it with English commentary. Harmon and Kelly.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby familyguy » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:58 pm
I liked the GreenEdge team reactions. It would be interesting to see the RadioShack team reaction
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby vander » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:36 pm
Canc got 2nd that is good I think he will be pretty happy with it. If he waited for the bunch he would of been lucky to get a top 5. So its not like he lost anything in the move.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby vander » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:51 pm
Its how racing works if you are fast enough to win a sprint you dont need to break the group (though it can be fun trying) the non sprinters have to out think or destroy the sprinters so they cant sprint.Parrott wrote:Spoken like a sprinter
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2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby Parrott » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:01 pm
Pretty hard to drop someone when they are not doing the work.
But yes that is bike racing and it is what makes it interesting.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby vander » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:37 pm
My point is he didnt steal the win he earnt it by getting in the right break and being able to sit on Canc then out kick him.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby The_Eggman » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:38 pm
FC had one card to play and he played it. Damn near worked too - managed to fry Nibali, and all but dropped Gerrans on the decent. Even then, who would have been shocked if Gerrans had been spent when it came to sprint?Parrott wrote:My point is if you watch the last 10 ks or so is that Cancellara was clearly the strongest and did all the work to stay away.
Pretty hard to drop someone when they are not doing the work..
Gerrans had no incentive to go to the front. (1) He had a sprinter in the pack, (2) pulling turns with FC is a recipe to get destroyed, and (3) if he had pulled turns, the chasing pack may well have wound them in
I don't think it was FC riding dumb (as some have written on other sites), nor was it a case of Gerrans just being a wheelsucker. They just rode the situation and their strengths
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby Parrott » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:45 pm
Cancellara didn't initiate the break but it was down to him that it survived.
Yes they both played to their strengths and both did what their teams expected them to do.
Cancellara is my favourite rider, I wanted him to win given he got them there.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby Chuck » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:13 pm
Having said that there's no way Gerrans stole it, great win well taken Some of the comments online would have you thinking it's easy to follow Cancellaras wheel
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby MichaelB » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:16 am
Wwell said.Chuck wrote:...Having said that there's no way Gerrans stole it, great win well taken Some of the comments online would have you thinking it's easy to follow Cancellaras wheel
CN has a great summary of 10 points lerant from MSR.
He won fair and square, and Fabs did a great job, but just couldn't drop Gerro enough.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby Chuck » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:49 am
I think alot of people feel the same way, he animates so many races Comes out with some great quotes too....Parrott wrote: Cancellara is my favourite rider
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancell ... n-san-remo“I had lactic acid coming out my ears too,” he said with a rueful smile. “If you go from the top of the Poggio to the finish full on, it’s clear that at the end the gas runs out.”
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby whitey » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:34 pm
I liked his quote last year after Paris Roubaix where they shadowed him "If I had stopped for coffee, they would have done the same" http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancell ... is-roubaixChuck wrote:I think alot of people feel the same way, he animates so many races Comes out with some great quotes too....Parrott wrote: Cancellara is my favourite rider
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancell ... n-san-remo“I had lactic acid coming out my ears too,” he said with a rueful smile. “If you go from the top of the Poggio to the finish full on, it’s clear that at the end the gas runs out.”
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby briztoon » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:15 pm
Parrott wrote:My point is Gerrans only had the oppurtunity to take the win because Cancellara kept them off the front.
Cancellara didn't initiate the break but it was down to him that it survived.
And Cancellara knew this was a distinct possibility of happening. Canc knows he hasn't got a chance if it comes down to a bunch sprint, that's why he does what he does. Would you rather take a chance of maybe finishing first, definately finishing on the podium, or sit up because the guy behind you isn't strong enough to pull the same as you, but can just hold your wheel, and then have the strong sprinters swamp you in the last 200m.
Plus Gerro did what he was told to do by his sporting directors. The commentators called it as soon as Cancellara joined Nibali and Gerrans and the trio rode over the top, no one expected Gerrans to expend himself. Everyone knew Cancellara was strong enough to ride to the line ahead of the bunch, what was unsure was whether Gerrans could stay with Nibali and Cancellara.
And I just can't watch the GE backstage video enough. It's so funny watching grown men scream like teen girls.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby MichaelB » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:55 am
Awaiting that issue with great delight.
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
Postby population100 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:01 am
Not to be out done on the post race interview, this is Terpstra after winning Dwars Door Vlaanderen;whitey wrote:I liked his quote last year after Paris Roubaix where they shadowed him "If I had stopped for coffee, they would have done the same" http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancell ... is-roubaix
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Re: 2012 Milan-San Remo
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