SBS Come Through Again
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Re: SBS Come Through Again
Postby MichaelB » Thu May 31, 2012 12:37 pm
Doesn't start till 11pm here in Adelaide, but at least the stages are shorter ....JV911 wrote:SBS showing all stages of the Criterium du Dauphine
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Postby JohnJoyner » Thu May 31, 2012 1:46 pm
Also on Eurosport... Who will be doing the commentating on SBS?MichaelB wrote:Doesn't start till 11pm here in Adelaide, but at least the stages are shorter ....JV911 wrote:SBS showing all stages of the Criterium du Dauphine
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Postby J Quinton » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:22 pm
For example, tonight you have "Hunting and Gathering" on during the live feed. Who watches that other than the people waiting for the race to come on?
Most people will be watching the live feeds on steephill.tv which means you will have less viewers which justifies the station put it on later. Catch 22.
P.S. Get some training and/or experience in your commentary team.
Is McEwen available?
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Re: SBS Come Through Again
Postby MichaelB » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:00 am
It's much better than what we had in the past !!!J Quinton wrote:C'mon SBS stop f'ing us around and put the races on live in S.A. and W.A.
For example, tonight you have "Hunting and Gathering" on during the live feed. Who watches that other than the people waiting for the race to come on?
Most people will be watching the live feeds on steephill.tv which means you will have less viewers which justifies the station put it on later. Catch 22.
P.S. Get some training and/or experience in your commentary team.
Is McEwen available?
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Postby J Quinton » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:36 pm
No. Stop living in the past SBS. Cycling is going off in Australia. Put the races on live and get a decent commentary team. Pay people properly. Cull all the amateurs who are willing to do it for free.
The current team will make a good back up team.
You say there's no money. I say find the money. There are millions of dollars out there. There is a rich history of Australian cyclists (pros) who would, given a bit training, make good commentators.
The dribble that comes out of the cycling central website is so parochial it's not funny. They can not even come up with titles that relate to the story.
Luckily we have the option of watching it live, with good commentators (Harman and Kelly, for example) on livestreams through steephill.tv
Until then SBS will lose viewers.
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Postby RonK » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:07 pm
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Postby J Quinton » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:30 pm
AFL may have a lot more money, but why is that?
Because they get it right. How many hours a weekend is AFL on free and live on television? There's even 4-5 talk shows during the week.
The overheads for SBS to cover races must be quite small. They pay a fee for the feed and a couple of microphones, some coffee and away you go. Change the colour of the World News set and there's you're pre-race banter set. We do not need that section SBS.
If channel TEN took over cycling I think they would do much better job.
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Postby jcjordan » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:22 pm
This limits the access that SBS has to purchase the telecasts.
As SA is 30 minutes behind it means that they are forced to delay or come in later.
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Postby J Quinton » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:38 pm
jcjordan wrote:You need to remember that they need to balance across all there telecast responsibilities and to show what will attract sponsorship dollars. Whether we like it or not cycling does not yet attract anywhere near the dollars here that the ball sports do.
This limits the access that SBS has to purchase the telecasts.
Make it a priority. Like I said earlier, it's catch 22. If they continue to treat cycling like a 3rd tier sport, it will remain there.
They have no limits. They subscribe to the same feed as everyone else. They do not need to set up a single camera. Show it live. Stop f'ing us around.
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Postby RonK » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:05 pm
OK, do share how.RICHARDH wrote:SBS will need to improve there coverage if they wish to keep people from flipping over to Eurosport, you no longer need to have Foxtel to get it.
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Postby jcjordan » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:09 pm
They still have to pay for the feed, which must then be offset by add revenue.J Quinton wrote:jcjordan wrote:You need to remember that they need to balance across all there telecast responsibilities and to show what will attract sponsorship dollars. Whether we like it or not cycling does not yet attract anywhere near the dollars here that the ball sports do.
This limits the access that SBS has to purchase the telecasts.
Make it a priority. Like I said earlier, it's catch 22. If they continue to treat cycling like a 3rd tier sport, it will remain there.
They have no limits. They subscribe to the same feed as everyone else. They do not need to set up a single camera. Show it live. Stop f'ing us around.
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Postby J Quinton » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:28 pm
Someone like McEwen probably wont come on because they wont pay enough. I bet he feels his time is more valuable.
I still struggle to see how "Hunters and Gatherers" (for example) would have more viewers than if they put the races on live.
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Postby clackers » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:52 pm
We can't be precious about a minority sport, JQ.J Quinton wrote:May be no-one is paying for adds cause they are a bunch of amateurs.
Changes to coverage (such as moving away from the 'everyman' Ligget/Sherwen commentary style) that appeal only to purists are self-defeating.
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Postby wulfy117 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:00 pm
Phil and Paul had a good balance of both, but in a relaxed tone rather than the "dipsy" aussie commentators.
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Re: SBS Come Through Again
Postby J Quinton » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:42 pm
Do you think cycling will always be a minority sport? I suspect SBS do. If they are not careful another station will steal it from them.clackers wrote:We can't be precious about a minority sport, JQ.J Quinton wrote:May be no-one is paying for adds cause they are a bunch of amateurs.
Changes to coverage (such as moving away from the 'everyman' Ligget/Sherwen commentary style) that appeal only to purists are self-defeating.
I'm no purist. I really don't care who is commentating, (can put the sound down) but don't patronise us with putting the races on live in NSW and delayed in WA and SA.
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Postby jcjordan » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:11 pm
I bet I have started a small war with this opinion
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Postby RICHARDH » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:26 pm
Ok so you need to get foxtel but you you only subscribe for the Eurosport and can just pick the months you want. Check this link outRonK wrote:OK, do share how.RICHARDH wrote:SBS will need to improve there coverage if they wish to keep people from flipping over to Eurosport, you no longer need to have Foxtel to get it.
http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/03/a ... per-month/
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Postby ozzymac » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:57 pm
RICHARDH wrote:Ok so you need to get foxtel but you you only subscribe for the Eurosport and can just pick the months you want. Check this link outRonK wrote:OK, do share how.RICHARDH wrote:SBS will need to improve there coverage if they wish to keep people from flipping over to Eurosport, you no longer need to have Foxtel to get it.
http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/03/a ... per-month/
Don't know where that is.
But for me to get Eurosport, I had to have basic package, plus sport pack.
But sometimes the commentators on Eurosport drive you nuts. Plus they don't usually tell you what the scenic shots are, when the helicopters show them, which sometimes would be nice to know what your looking at.
Cheers
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